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i would have to disagree with you about galileo
he actually ran a very good race in the irish champion and only lost to fl in a tactical race admit not one of kinanes finest moments the form of his derby through golan and storming home last year has worked out very well
and referring to the qe11 in the soft going and front running do u think summoner would have got to him<br>maybe and maybe not
Hawk Wing does seem to have as much spin surrounding him as New Labour. This is all well and good but where does the real Hawk Wing begin and this mythical creature that warms the cockles of Aidan o’Briens heart every morning end. <br>The big concern for me is that if he has so many problems in his hindquarters and shoulders that he can only run one unbelieveable race before hurting himself is he a horse that should be bred from at all?
i dont think that you are diagreeing with me re galileo PR. I think it is forgotten how good he actually was on derby day, and in the KG. I do think that he should have had an arc prep rather than the 10f route. He was hyped by teh press at the time, but his actual achievements have been forgotten and underplayed by the public. Golan didnt hurt the form much last year.
HW justified the hype in the lockinge, its just that he isnt consistent enough to run that well back to back, he is too inconsistent to back at odds on. But the fanstasy 7/2 offered on a differnet thread woulod be the best value saver for anyone fancying anything against HW in the race.
What surprises me is that the QA is seen to be HW true running by most on the forum.
Swingopair<br>sorry rattle was still on floor.<br>JIM JTS<br>Took me ten minutes longer to read the posts, as I’ve been away from the computer for two days, cos of your interjections. Keep it up.<br>DL<br>Well said, in words that I could not find at the time.<br>PR<br>Excellent point, but only the hype will be remembered.<br>ID<br>i think you possible have the same political view as you describe HW, does that bode well for backand lacklustre.com?<br>:biggrin: Copyright ID 2003<br>Galileo<br>Good horse won 6/8 on all goings coming 2nd once. IMO worth the hype. Unlike HW. <br>But still do not like HYPE.
If anyone does have the Last word on this thread, then<br>HYPE HYPE HOO-Bloody-RAY. :clap:<br>
(Edited by Dungheap at 4:22 pm on June 25, 2003)
Winalot,<br>Looks like ballydoyle agree, by the racing post this morning, Fallon to replace Kinane.<br>Maybe you are the peceptive one amongst us.
(Edited by Dungheap at 11:23 am on June 27, 2003)
tdk
You’re the one who just put it back to the top again !
oops …… so did I :biggrin:
Dungheap….i tried on Page 9, changed my mind on page 10  :laugh:  never have been any good with electrics!!
TDK
For the record most topics end one of 2 ways which are : <br>a) When it is considered dead when people stop adding their views and it hasn’t been added to for +30 days in which case it gets deleted or filed in the archive section. <br>b) It is an extremely offensive thread or childish and is locked or deleted by Admin which luckily is not a common trait here on TRF.
Outlook calendar programmed for every 29th day:rolleyes:
The light’s back on ;)
Good to see him getting good mares.Someone likes him
<br>Oaks stars to visit Hawk Wing<br> <br>TREBLE Group 1 scorer Hawk Wing will have two Oaks winners in his first book of mares at Coolmore. <br>   <br>  Barronstown Stud’s Imagine, who went to Danehill in her first two seasons, and Camas Park Stud’s Lady Carla, will both visit the winner of the 2001 National Stakes, the 2002 Eclipse Stakes and the 2003 Lockinge Stakes. <br>   <br>  Coolmore principal John Magnier purchased Lady Carla’s yearling Kingmambo colt for 1,000,000gns at the Tattersalls Houghton Sale. <br>   <br>  Also in Hawk Wing’s book is Offshore Boom, the dam of Rock Of Gibraltar, who set a new record when winning seven Group 1 races in succession – among them the 2,000 Guineas, when he controversially beat his stablemate Hawk Wing.<br> <br>
(Edited by Wingandaprayer at 9:44 pm on Dec. 15, 2003)
I think on page 7, Ian, you said that in your opinion, HW was not an exceptional horse. Well, strictly speaking, that may well be incontrovertible; but as to your judgment in the matter, old chap…aaah…!
You see, very few horses indeed would have broken the all-age track record at a Grade 1 track, as HW did. Does anyone know of any others?
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