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First, it was a poor tournament. 11 own goals, [Golden Boot] players rolling around after getting slapped. Good job Danielle van de Donk, Arsenal Women’s Midfielder, wasn’t playing they wouldn’t get up.
They said they practiced penalties
they must have been rolling around during training watching Rashford. Come on its not rocket science left or right with plenty of pace, just like Harry showed them.
You know it’s a bad tournament when Germany doesn’t turn up, even Graham Souness asked Ian Wright if he was happy with England performances just before the quarter-finals, Wrighty hesitated,
A poor England side got to a final.
On the Plus side Jordan Pickford Everton’s goalie, well done mate.
Which was about cricket
I think it was specifically about captain David Gower’s batting average in the Blackwash series of 1984 if I remember rightly.
“Aftertiming” – we see it on internet betting forums all the time and we see it in football too.
I actually really like Alan Shearer – proper bloke as a player and a superb intelligent opinionated pundit – but he was aftertiming like a good’un last night.
He said it was wrong to bring penalty takers on cold.
Had Southgate not done that, and still lost the shootout, I can just see Shearer saying it was madness letting non-penalty takers for their Clubs, who were also mentally and physically exhausted after a two-hour Final, take penalties when there were fresh penalty specialists sat on the bench.
Southgate was dammed if he did and damned if he didn’t as the outcome defines success or failure in judgement and sometimes it’s the spin of a coin.
As for the three misses, I’m old school and like players to put their foot through it (as Shearer used to do, actually).
Harry Kane has a cannon in his right foot and nearly broke the net.
And what a strike from Maguire the centre back.
But even so I can’t knock Marcus Rashford.
Great player, great social conscience, I don’t much like his stuttering run up style on penalties, but he’s had a high conversion rate doing it his way and he was millimetres off it going in off the post with Donnarumma sent the wrong way.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"I’d be fascinated to know if anyone has done a study ‘silly run ups’ against ‘proper run ups’ por penalty shoot-outs.
One of my best memories of a penalty shoot-out is from a Scottish East Region match between Forfar West End and Ballingry Rovers a few years ago. Centre back for Forfar WE, built like two semi detached brick sh*thouses knocked into one, took a 20 yard run up and just smacked it as hard as he could. Keeper missed it, but if he’d got in the way he would have felt it for weeks!
That would be an illuminating study, Rob.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"To me, penalty taking seems an unsatisfactory way to win a match as it places too much of a burden on an individual in what is a quintessential team game
If it’s still a draw after the half hour of extra time why not continue playing until a goal is scored – sudden death, with a rule introduced that no substitutions are permitted after the regulation 90 minutes
And with that truly brilliant idea I will forget about soccer until the jamboree in that bastion of democracy Qatar next year…possibly
You have 120 minutes to win the match.
If you chose to go all cagey and are more concerned about not losing than actually winning then you go to penalties. They know the score. Yet most teams do go super cautious when it gets to extra time.You need a manager and team who will attack and go for it in the extra time. If they chose to go cautious then that’s there fault when the penalties come.
It was Italy playing for penalties. England’s mistake was defending to deeply. Italy was in the first half taking shots from outside the box. Dangerous if on target, but they weren’t.
You've got to accentuate the positive.
Eliminate the negative.
Latch on to the affirmative.
Don't mess with mister in between.I’m not talking about England vs bloody Italy you loony.
I’m talking about penalty shoot outs.
You have 120 minutes, if either team aren’t prepared to go and win it then you go to penalties. Almost all extra time in these events sees both teams play cagey. Which part don’t you understand.
Talk of playing on forever til a goal is scored is stupid. You know the drill 120 minutes then penalties or having 6 penalties or whatever is stupid.
No team should ever complain if they lost on penalties as it was their choice not to go for it.
Penalties can be cruel but in t he case of England v Italy the better team were the winners so it worked out fair on that occasion.
I with cork
Southgate is never the greatest England manager for a whole host of reasons but it’s a given that early goals greatly unsettle oppositions and you have to go hard at them. No better time to do so. His caution is a serious weakness and the excuse they are kids is nonsense
The second half could have been a deserved drubbing
I too would like to see some stats around Rob’s run-up query.
I saw some stats on pen shoot outs on Twitter suggesting-
Younger players do better
Defenders do worse
Later in shoot out the harder it getsI’ll try to find the tweet
I would imagine that every team would have someone on board in the backroom staff that would have watched every single penalty of the opposition at club and International level.
Saka having never taken one would have been a mystery to the Italians but I doubt that would have outweighed the inexperience and pressure cooker of nerves.Gaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
That was bizarre, the most important penalty in English history and a 19 year old who had never taken one in a competitive match in his professional career taking it. Grealish has said he did offer to take one.
Maybe they (the backroom team) over-thought it.
I am not a fan of the staggered run up. As much as it might put the keeper off a bit I am convinced the taker is busy watching him rather than looking at the ball.Stats as a whole would be irrelevant on staggered run up versus just hammering it in a corner as it’s down to the individual.
Some players are brilliant with the staggered run up and probably barely miss and vice versa.No penalty technique is superior to any other it’s all about who is taking it and the execution.
Straight and slightly rising is perhaps the safest over all as a keeper will never just stand his ground in the middle. As long as it’s rising then there’s no chance his feet will stop it as he dives to one corner or the other.
they must have been rolling around during training watching Rashford. Come on its not rocket science left or right with plenty of pace, just like Harry showed them.
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