October 2, 2005 at 08:48 #2338DaylightMember
- Total Posts 369
Looking forward to seing Harchibald return to action in the Grade 1 John James McManus Memorial Hurdle at Tipperary today taking on Solerina, Royal Paradise, Ansar, Hasty Prince, Calorando and Red Square Lady.
Looks a cracking race for this time of the year and I think sums up the Irish attitude towards Cheltenham being an extra and not the only target!
I personally think Solerina will come out and win today, anybody else got an interest in the race today?October 2, 2005 at 09:21 #67423
Hasty Prince may run a race at a big price. <br>Great to see the national hunt back. <br>October 2, 2005 at 10:00 #67425
Bookies seem to have this right I think, Solerina is much more likely to be at her peak today than Harchibald. However Harchibald improved a ton last season and if he drifts out he could be a bit of value. 11/4 ish I’d be interested.
Also Uttoxeter stage an extremely interesting novice at 2.00. Mikado finally makes his debut for Jonjo after a year off and he comes up against Crow Wood. Was hoping Jonjo’s would be odds on but alas he isn’t so I’ll just sit and watch that one with interest.October 2, 2005 at 13:03 #67429
Tell me this…WHY have the bookies got it right. Your assuming that Solerina will be nearer her peak….WHY??? Coz the RP says so?? <br>FACT: Harchibald is a far superior horse that Solerina.<br>ASSUMPTION: Harchibald wont be ready but Solerina will be?? Crazy logic. Unless you have info from the stable to suggest otherwise then HARCHIBALD has to be the bet at a MASSIVE 3.2!!! Unbelievable priceOctober 2, 2005 at 13:04 #67430
Quote: from davidjohnson on 11:00 am on Oct. 2, 2005[br]Bookies seem to have this right I think, Solerina is much more likely to be at her peak today than Harchibald. Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â <br>
Tell me why??? I for one dont agree with you.October 2, 2005 at 13:15 #67431
Solerina goes well fresh and won this on what was effectively her reappearance last year. She is not going to be quick enough to win a Champion and has been put in her place at 2m by the big guns in Ireland premier events once the season is fully underway.
I agree that Harchibald is a better horse, but he will be peaking towards the spring and I cannot believe that he will be anywhere near his peak for this. The ground is also very much on the soft side, conditions that do not play to Harchibald’s strengths. If you disagree then lump on, I just don’t think there is any value at the minute. 5/2 or 11/4 for Harchbald and I might get involved.October 2, 2005 at 13:39 #67432
Solerina had been running on the flat last year ran some big races in good races before she won this.October 2, 2005 at 13:39 #67433
Quote: from Grasshopper on 2:31 pm on Oct. 2, 2005[br]TheFootyKing, you only need to look at the corresponding race last year, to be forgiven that the bookies might have called the prices right.
What price do you suggest Harchibald should be, in light of the almost identical conditions this year?
Sorry mate but last year was bottomless. Much better ground today.<br>DJ, yes I agree that Harchibald obviously wont be peaking now but i dont think he will have to be at his best to beat a mare on the decline.October 2, 2005 at 13:40 #67434
without sounding silly, I for one would not be laying Harchibald for anything over 4/6.October 2, 2005 at 13:49 #67435
Solerina ran 3 times on the flat in 2004. Those outings were on <br>04/04/04<br>15/04/04<br>10/10/04
She won this corresponding race last year on 3/10/04October 2, 2005 at 14:21 #67436
He’s sure to win his fair share of races again this season, but he’s not going to do much at all off the bridle is he?October 2, 2005 at 14:23 #67437
New season…same old Harchibald!! A lucky winner. Wasnt going past AGAIN!!October 2, 2005 at 14:50 #67438
My Mistake DJ. Had it in my head that he’d run flat and then gone hurdles. Didn’t realise he had hurdled and then gone flat then back hurdle.October 2, 2005 at 14:50 #67439
She NOT HeOctober 2, 2005 at 20:46 #67440guskennedyMember
- Total Posts 759
Solerina would clearly have won today if she hadn’t fallen. Her jockey refused to set it up for Harchibald by going off at a breakneck pace and I suspect Harchibald’s rivals are getting wise to him. Question: when will it dawn on Meade that Harchibald would be hugely assisted by the employment of a pacemaker?
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.