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I notice that Haden Frost rode over the jumps today, in fact he was very stylish in the first race in which he won in a canter.
I haven’t read anything about him switching codes so I take it that today was just a one off. Can anyone clarify? I think he is a very promising jockey and I think he would have slightly more chance of making it to the top over the jumps, rather than on the flat IMO.
Mike
(just watched a race at Exeter, in which two horses fell at the same fence – Magnum & Ice Cream
)Something needs to be done about that fence. I’ve seen hundreds and thousands of horses make mistakes there.
FROST JUNIOR MAY MAKE JUMPS DEBUT AT EXETER
11:00 – 05 December 2007
Highly promising South Devon jockey Hadden Frost is poised to take one of the rarest steps in horse racing – he’s going to ride over the jumps as well as on the flat.
Hadden, the 17-year-old son of Buckfastleigh-based trainer Jimmy Frost, is in the process of taking out a licence to ride in National Hunt races.He hopes the paperwork will be completed this week.
It comes after a year in which Frost Jr has ridden 30 Flat winners as an apprentice, based with top trainer Richard Hannon, and established himself as a potential star of the future.
Riding over both codes is rare. The only other current jockey tackling it is Irishman Richard Hughes, who is taking out a jumps licence so he can ride at the Cheltenham Festival next March.
But Hadden’s father, former Grand National winner Jimmy, said: "I don’t think Hadden will have any trouble riding jumps as well as the flat.
"He had lots of showjumping experience, he’s ridden jumpers before and he’s a good horseman," he said.
"We’re hoping the licence will come through in time for him to ride in Friday’s meeting at Haldon (Exeter). We’ve done all our form-filling, and it’s now down to the authorities.
"Hadden will carry on riding on the Flat (all-weather) during the winter too. It’s great experience for him."
Many thanks for that Jilly.
He looked very stylish today and has a very good future whichever code he decides to concentrate mainly on.
Mike
Its because they zoom in to the fence too quickly. The jockeys always use too much Mr Whippy, Choc Ice Thornton is the worst, he’s a real screwball, falls 99 times out of 100, whereas Ruby Walsh he’s Fab at getting them over.
Didn’t Toby Balding once describe Jimmy Frost as ‘the perfect jockey – all legs and no brain’……?
Jimmy’s dad certainly had a brain, and the bookies on the west-country circuit
would no doubt agree"Riding over both codes is rare. The only other current jockey tackling it is Irishman Richard Hughes".
…as well as Antony Procter, Paddy Aspell, a stack of amateur riders and maybe still Vince Slattery (need to check).
Not sure of the original author of the article cited, but a little accuracy may have been forsaken in the interests of making a story appear more newsworthy, I think.
Notwithstanding which, yes, Haddon looked assured enough in the race in question.
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Vince Slattery is definitely still riding under both codes.
Has PJ McDonald switched entirely to the Flat or is he going to ride over jumps this winter?
I think he’s flat only now,certainly hasn’t ridden over jumps for a while.
Whilst most go from flat to jumps due to their weight the likes of PJ and Jim Crowley have shown that it isn’t impossible to make a successful transition from NH to flat racing.I’m sure he will find a lot of rides with his father who is branching out with flat runners as well as his jumpers and I also heard a rumour that Frost was being lined up for more rides with Jonathan Geake another dual purpose trainer.
Whilst most go from flat to jumps due to their weight the likes of PJ and Jim Crowley have shown that it isn’t impossible to make a successful transition from NH to flat racing.
Joe Fanning also started out over jumps, I recall.
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Don’t recall him riding over the jumps (his brother certainly rode under both codes as an amateur).
Ray Cochrane rode over hurdles I think and of course Richard Hughes has ridden under both codes.
I’m sure there’ll be a few others as well,dare I say Ann Stokell.There are certainly others. Sashi Righton was a conditional over the jumps some 12 or so years ago, if memory serves.
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