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    JamesStock21
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    TurfTrax saying predominately good ground at Prestbury Park currently, how much watering do you think they’ll do in the event of no rainfall?

    #1586485
    Avatar photoEx RubyLight
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    The usual amount of watering to provide GOOD TO SOFT ground maybe with SOFT in places.

    #1586494
    Tizaaards Cider
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    Strange decision to start watering now when the rain was forecast and it’s currently bouncing down in the area.

    #1586495
    Avatar photoCork All Star
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    Why is good ground a problem anyway? :unsure:

    #1586496
    Tizaaards Cider
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    Because ground with the word soft in some part of the description would be deemed to be more beneficial/safer/preferable to most horses running at that time of year?

    Was that even a serious question? :unsure:

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    Yes, TC. It is a serious question.

    If trainers are seriously saying that good ground is a problem then I despair.

    If you have not done so, read up on racing in the not long distant past. Before the era of watering, it really was not uncommon for good quality NH racing to take place with “firm” in the going description, even at tracks like Haydock. I am not aware of it having been a problem or top class horses of that era having more injuries.

    I expect trainers today would faint with shock at the idea they should run their precious charges on such ground.

    Some horses want good ground. Why should they be discriminated against and have their chances compromised by artificial watering?

    If soft ground is so vital for modern NH racing and its trainers, maybe we have to ask if Cheltenham is being held at the wrong time of the year. Why not stage it in January instead, when soft ground is almost guaranteed?

    #1586514
    Tizaaards Cider
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    You’re obviously the forum crank so I’ll make a mental note and move on. :good:

    #1586517
    Avatar photoCork All Star
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    What have I said that is wrong, then?

    #1586527
    Avatar photoWilts
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    I wish they’d leave the ground alone, quite frankly, unless it comes up like a road. Anyways, i live in Bristol and it’s absolutely lashed down today, so with Cheltenham not that far away i expect they’ve had its fair share today.
    Next week looks fair though, so i expect it’ll come up Good by Thursday.

    #1586774
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    I’m 44 , if the trainer’s keep complaining but the time I’m in my 60s the festival will be run on a artificial surface ….

    2040 ” Dan what do you think of the surface ”

    Dan ” ohh id like polytrack for my horse in the hcap and tapeta for my horse in the Champion hurdle

    Pick 3 on Saturday champion 2025/2026

    #1586779
    Mike007
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    I don’t think they should water to get soft in the going description as some horses like good ground and good ground seems fine to me. But times change, the aspect of horse welfare is more in the spotlight, so i have accepted it.

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    Avatar photoGladiateur
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    Darren Bett on the BBC weather forecast has just said “little to no rain for the rest of the week” in Cheltenham (he mentioned the festival specifically), so the dreaded taps are bound to be turned on at some stage.

    #1587113
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    Who,ll make more money this week at Cheltenham …Guinness or the waterboard

    Pick 3 on Saturday champion 2025/2026

    #1587115
    Avatar photoPurwell
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    You’re obviously the forum crank so I’ll make a mental note and move on.

    You aint seen nothing yet!

    I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
    I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highways
    #1587287
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    Clerk of the course putting punters away again.

    “Good-soft” my arse.

    Clerks can get the forecast going wrong – either softer or firmer than the forecast good-soft. That’s no disgrace…
    But after four races there is no excuse not to change the official going to GOOD.

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    #1587289
    Mike007
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    It was good to soft early this morning. Understandable its quicker after sunny 14 degrees.

    #1587461
    TheTinMan87
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    Incidentally potential for up to 8mm of rain today and they have been ‘selectively watering’ 5mm overnight. :unsure: leave it alone ffs

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