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  • #9925
    Fist of Fury 2k8
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    Who in your opinion is the greatest NH trainer of all time and why.

    For me Michael Dickinson Fred Winter and Nicky Henderson have to be up there I’m sure some have other ideas.

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    seabird
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    Why no J.J. O’Neill, Fists?

    Colin

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    Fist of Fury 2k8
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    I said the greatest not the shrewdest :lol:

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    BennyB
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    Martin Pipe – raised the bar in terms of fitness required, and hence has done more for the welfare of racehorses than any other.

    Dickinson second, Nicholls third.

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    Vincent O’Brien’s many Gold Cup and Grand National successes in the 50s, not to mention his countless classic wins, mark him out as arguably the greatest ( and shrewdest ) trainer of all time.

    However, Martin Pipe did raise the bar when it comes to NH training and his level of consistency over the many years sets him apart from the others.

    In short, for me,Martin Pipe takes the plaudits.

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    The poll is rendered meaningless on account of the shameful omission of Simon T Lewis. 8)

    gc

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    clivex
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    A lack of wins in the championship races which is not unconnected his policy of running (ruining?) talent til they could barely crawl out iof the horsebox would always count against Pipe for me

    Ive gone for Nichols.

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    Irish Stamp
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    With no option for Marie Laetitia-Mourier there is no point in having this poll :(

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    Smithy
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    Pipe for me too. Changed the way things were done and achieved some truly amazing results with some modest stock.

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    KEITH REED
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    i’m in the pipe camp as well

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    Vincent O’Brien is the pivital training figure in both codes in my opinion. His NH achievements are often forgotten considering his record on the flat.

    3 consecutive Gold Cups, 3 consecutive Champion Hurdles and 3 consecutive Aintree Nationals with 3 different horses. He would have dominated the national hunt game if he hadn’t turned his attentions to the flat.

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    Avatar photoThe Ante-Post King
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    As much as i admire M.Pipe, perhaps if he had just won the odd Classic
    or 3, then maybe! Vincent O-Brien for me!

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    The poll is rendered meaningless on account of the shameful omission of Simon T Lewis. 8)

    gc

    Ahem, Ahem Jeremy, don’t you mean Edward M Caine!!!

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    My God, I’m totally amazed. I cast my vote, and then looked at the figures. I’d have thought Vincent O’Brien would have got over 80%. Could we please exclude people under the age of 35 from voting, as they are ignorant.

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    Avatar photoDrone
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    Think you’ve got your Captains mixed up there Fister

    Tim Forster surely? – the greatest trainer of the slow horse :)

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    Smithy
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    My God, I’m totally amazed. I cast my vote, and then looked at the figures. I’d have thought Vincent O’Brien would have got over 80%. Could we please exclude people under the age of 35 from voting, as they are ignorant.

    People disagree with me therefore are ignorant….Oh the arrogance of it all.

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    davidbrady
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    Indeed – a common failing of the elderly in my experience.

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