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  • #160761
    clivex
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    Interesting little race

    Quite a few other declared runners across the card i believe…wahts the problem?

    Should every course that puts on a race with less than 4 runners be immediately shut down?

    This is a strange world at times. Most fans of other sports are happy to see their sports prosper and expand.

    #160763
    Avatar photoGazs Way De Solzen
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    Which race is it that £10k is up for grabs? ? ?

    Is it the 6.50pm? ? ?

    Prize money of £6,799.

    #160770
    underscore
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    Gaz – its advertised as a 10k race – I’m well aware that its actually a £6800 penalty. my point was pretty clear….they have just opened this track to much fanfare and backing (indeed being allocated a couple of class 3 on a wednesday shows the backing its getting)…but the fact they only have 3 runners in the showcase must point to a lack of demand.
    This country does not need another track – it needs investment in the existing tracks around the UK.

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    Avatar photoGazs Way De Solzen
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    Gaz – its advertised as a 10k race – I’m well aware that its actually a £6800 penalty. my point was pretty clear….they have just opened this track to much fanfare and backing (indeed being allocated a couple of class 3 on a wednesday shows the backing its getting)…but the fact they only have 3 runners in the showcase must point to a lack of demand.
    This country does not need another track – it needs investment in the existing tracks around the UK.

    Ahhh i see.

    Apologies.

    #160778
    apracing
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    Underscore,

    Presumably you’d support the closure of Ascot after todays miserable five and six runner races for £30k and £50k respectively.

    You’ve made your total disdain for Great Leighs clear in a number of posts on other threads – in one post you predicted that the track would soon be staging banded racing.

    So they’re damned by you if they offer £10k for a race and damned if they put on lower class stuff with bigger fields.

    AP

    #160782
    Avatar photoJim JTS
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    the national hunt season must be over :D or just started :o

    ofcourse there’s too much racing, from both codes but leave Great Leighs alone and give it a chance, national hunt lovers are all to quick to judge a new flat racing track.

    #160797
    Glenn
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    How much proof is required that there are far too many tedious anti AW posts on this forum?

    There were 5 horses declared for said race and 2 NRS – so what?

    Why didn’t you post that there is a maiden there tonight with runners owned by Khalid Abdulla, Cheveley Park, Hesmonds Stud, Saeed Manana, Ballymacoll Stud and A E Oppenheimer? That speaks volumes about how the track has gone down with the professionals imo…

    More fancy owners than punters by the looks of things. Thirteen hundred notes in the tote pool and first show comes through a couple of minutes after the schedueled off. The Bookmakers’ Twilight Racing Service in all its glory.

    Leaving aside the rights and wrongs of Great Leighs itself, surely even you will admit that supply outstrips punter demand (if not lizard demand) for all weather fixtures at present.

    #160801
    seabird
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    Attendance is by invitation only at this stage…………….that might explain the first phenomenon but surely not the lateness of the first show?!

    Colin

    #160807
    Glenn
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    They should lay on more of these 3 runner races with a Braveheart fav.

    #160814
    thedarkknight
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    More fancy owners than punters by the looks of things. Thirteen hundred notes in the tote pool and first show comes through a couple of minutes after the schedueled off. The Bookmakers’ Twilight Racing Service in all its glory.

    Leaving aside the rights and wrongs of Great Leighs itself, surely even you will admit that supply outstrips punter demand (if not lizard demand) for all weather fixtures at present.

    The first point is surely down to the fact that the meetings are currently closed to the public? Let’s at least give the place a chance and see how it fares when the paying punters are allowed in…

    My main gripe about the AW this season has been the poor quality of the racing. As a punter, I don’t really have a problem with small fields but no-one really enjoys seeing the same 50 rated beasts race against each other every day. If Great Leighs can attract the decent horses then it should be a success – on that score I would say the early signs for the track are good and it could even end up as the leading AW track in time.

    #160816
    Glenn
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    I’d bet against that if you’re offering prices. We’ve already had two year’s worth of Great Leighs fixtures, so we’ve got a fair idea of what’s gonna be on offer. Let’s face it, the words ‘transerred from Great Leighs’ are synonymous with exactly the sort of 50 rated beasts taking turns to lose that you say is a turn off.

    #160824
    Glenn
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    It’s certainly eventful at GL. Smelly losing the second after his only serious rival wouldn’t go into the stalls (were they Kempton stalls?), psychic market moves in the third which I won’t dwell on, the Braveheart/Winston perfect marriage fav finishing last in the fourth, horse smashed off the boards ("late jockey change – champ replaces apprentice) in the fifth and wins, now we’ve got one of Barney’s in the last.

    OK, there were blue blood horses and connections in the first, bucking the trend, but it seems to be a magnet for every character in racing at the moment.

    #160830
    underscore
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    Praise indeed TDK….. :P I’ll bugger off now until the jumps start again….

    #160834
    thedarkknight
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    Yes – join Grasshopper for his annual summer hibernation – there’s a good chap… 8)

    #160873
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    Why didn’t you post that there is a maiden there tonight with runners owned by Khalid Abdulla, Cheveley Park, Hesmonds Stud, Saeed Manana, Ballymacoll Stud and A E Oppenheimer? That speaks volumes about how the track has gone down with the professionals imo…

    Quite. I also think that any course’s fixture list can be a little susceptible to peaks and troughs of demand during the course of a season. Let’s wait and see what happens come September and October – my own thinking on what I’ve seen so far is that the wideness and apparent fairness of the track is going to make Great Leighs a very appealing venue among the Newmarket set for late-season big field AW juvenile maidens.

    gc

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    #160875
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    Great Leighs will surely be well supported by the Newmarket trainers and the track looks a decent test, unlike Wolverhampton, and it will be interesting how the latter and Kempton fare when the new track becomes established.

    #160897
    Avatar photoricky lake
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    I agree the track management are doing all they possibly can to lay on good racing and facilities , and more luck to them , I sincerely hope they do very well , they appear to have made a good start

    meanwhile back in the real world , come this autumn and winter I expect this track will join the others in offering low grade dross for 2 grand or les a pop , its now the accepted norm and despite various mutterings from this forum nobody seems to be geting the message , dross racing means lower interest in our sport ,and its only a question of time where betting on horse racing stoops below the 30 per cent mark

    does anyone care , I doubt it , meanwhile the show goes on ……..

    cheers

    Ricky

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