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  • #137544
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    For all of you wishing you had a red button, forget it. Believe it or believe it not but exactly the same split screen and commentary now appears behind it :lol: Unbelievable isn’t it, I thought the whole idea of it was to show a different race when they clashed as it used to.
    Personally the split screen is complete waste of time, it just spoils both races, dots on the horizon. With their massive time delay on their pictures anyway what’s the point of having a split screen, may has well show one race after the other.

    #137687
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    It’s frustrating to have all the clashes and split screens when there’s a few meetings on but I’d far rather have it that way than when there’s only one meeting and you have to sit through half an hour of repeated filler between races.

    Well I’d rather sit through repeats than all those God awful adverts on ATR and gladly pay to avoid them- what has happened to Chums trousers BTW?

    #138974
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    NO?! They never? That’s just bad, but so laughable!

    #139070
    katabatic
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    Not the most polite starrt to an interview but the producer frames the programme not the presenter. Too be honest he was superb as usual hope you backed a few winners

    #139071
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    We still love you really Luke! 8)

    #139100
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    Not the most polite starrt to an interview but the producer frames the programme not the presenter. Too be honest he was superb as usual hope you backed a few winners

    I totally agree, hence why Luke was so apologetic to Daryl when he got him on the line, saying "I’m surprised you didn’t hang up" as if to make amends……… only then to refer him as Daryl Holland :lol:

    I appreciate the producers structure the programme, but in every single interview I have seen on ATR they have introduced the guest by showing ‘winning’ footage. Whoever decided to show Daryl’s worst career moment as a jockey (his own admission) as an introduction, wants a lesson in ‘tact’ :lol:

    Mike

    #139124
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    I thought Luke did a good job in the booth yesterday, with all those courses to cover. Tango Man would have had kittens!

    #6954
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    I like ATR just as much as I like RUK. I think ATR’s ‘Get On’ show is brilliant with some very informative interviews on a daily basis.

    However, the strength of this show is the interactvieness between us (the viewers) and the presenters. Normally the viewers send in emails, regularly asking questions, either to the presenters or for the presenters to ask the telephone guests. In the main, the questions generally get answered.

    BUT…. with Luke Harvey (yesterday) and Jason Weaver (today) they are not doing what is key in my opinion. Yes they are reading emails out, but they are not answering any questions.

    A typical scenario would be something like this;

    "Pete’s emailed in…. I think Tidal Bay has a great chance at Cheltenham if his jumping has improved. What do you think Jase/Luke, what race do you think he will line up in?…. Thanks for that Pete…. Paul’s emailed in, thanks for your email Paul…"

    What Jason and Luke need to realise is that the show is not just about reading the emails or texts out, it’s about answering them also. In the above scenario, Pete asked a question, but the presenters are just ignoring the questions and moving on to the next email. It’s quite poor to be honest.

    I don’t like criticising these guys but it needs addresssing. I know Boycie pops in here a lot and he will no doubt read this – if so Sean, can you bring this to the attention of your producers. Yourself, Matt and Enzo do a great job at answering emails, but Luke and Jason have a lot to learn I’m afraid.

    Cheers,

    Mike

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    I’ve noticed that particularly with Weaver, it’s quite funny, he reads something out and you expect an opinion or answer but he just moves on to the next one. Perhams another one. Having said that I prefer Cooper, Boycie or Luke in there to Chapman, I’m a lot more relaxed for the days racing with no Chapman :lol:

    #148324
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    Totally agree Mike.

    Weaver as a judge would have more credibility than most imo but he’s very ignorant when it comes to dealing with other people’s opinions via email which as you point out is a major function of the program.

    Harvey can be funny at times but comes across as an "insider" through and through with absolutely no interest in any opinions outside of the racing circle.

    #148330
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    They couldn’t have been as bad as last night’s Racing UK Cheltenham preview. I learnt nothing new from the ‘experts’ Dave Nevison & Mark Howard. Luckily Lydia was there; otherwise I would have turned off :wink: .

    #148354
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    They couldn’t have been as bad as last night’s Racing UK Cheltenham preview. I learnt nothing new from the ‘experts’ Dave Nevison & Mark Howard. Luckily Lydia was there; otherwise I would have turned off :wink: .

    You keep your dirty eyes off my Lydia!

    #148374
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    I agree with you on this: what separates (or what should separate, in this case) the specialist channels from terrestrial coverage is that the presenters are opinionated, and passionate about their opinion: they talk like people who do actually bet sometimes.

    It’s great to turn into Racing UK and hear Lydia, Nick Luck, Steve Mellish or whoever say ‘I’ve taken 20/1 on that one’ – could you imagine anyone on BBC 2’s coverage saying that? Are they even allowed?

    As you say, all they need to do is follow Matt and Sean’s example: say if they agree or disagree with the email, or offer an alternative perspective – just don’t be a passive intermediary between computer screen and viewer.

    #148402
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    To take an alternative view, why does it matter what the presenter thinks? The emailer has voiced their opinion on air, job done.

    #148471
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    i enjoy atr and most of the presenters, my favourite though is strangely chapman. cant really explain why but its just my sense of humour. he seems to me to be mischevous, sarcastic but above all passionate.

    makes me laugh when i read posts slagging him when he goes over the top and says something like "its what we have been waiting for all day – the classified stakes".

    contrary to the popular saying, sarcasm is not the lowest form of wit!

    #148494
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    …………..but Hitch, don’t you think that he tries just a little too hard to be ‘funny’ and ‘daringly controversial’.

    Undoubtedly sees himself as a ‘character’ whereas really, in my opinion of course, he is a total nob.

    Colin

    #148502
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    As i’ve said on previous threads no one is above criticism but there are no set guidelines in the betting booth. (wouldn’t it be boring if we were all the same)
    I hadn’t realised i’d not answered some of the emailers because ironically thats the bit i enjoy most along with interviewing the guests on Get On.
    I agree there is definitely room for improvement on my behalf but luckily for you Mikky i’m only a part timer in the booth!

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