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- February 16, 2024 at 11:04 #1681280
Which horse was that Quelle Farce didn’t check racing yesterday
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February 16, 2024 at 12:31 #1681283It was Placenet. Sorry my post didn’t make it clear. I’ve edited it now to make the name stand out.
Empire Steel running at Kelso today for Sandy Thomson in a 2m5½f Class 2 five-runner affair off a mark of 142, with main rival being Richmond Lake.
February 16, 2024 at 17:23 #1681315Cheers QF know who you mean now.
There a few national entries running tomorrow alsoVf x
February 16, 2024 at 17:51 #1681316Empire Steel won without too much ado after two rivals fell at the final three fences.
Punchestown on Sunday has another interesting race, with Any Second Now (not entered for what would be a third successive tilt at the Grand National) top weight for the 16-runner Grand National Trial Handicap Chase (Listed Race) over 3m3f.
However, that top weight is just 144 (ASN ran off 167 in April, but has dropped heavily after two midfield completes in the Foxrock (listed) at Navan behind Embittered and finishing 8th in the Thyestes. How much of that is natural decline for this 12 yo, or Walsh proving a point, well, maybe Sunday will explain further.
From a much larger field earlier in the week, there are five who are entered for Aintree. DUNBOYNE (138, tailed off in the National last year after being short-headed in the 2023 Thyestes then following that up with a 4th in the Kim Muir) and FRONTAL ASSAULT (138, was four pounds higher a year ago but is another out of form, with only a fourth in the Porterstown in December halting the slow but steady slide down the weights) are the two highest-profile challengers, both trained by Gordon Elliott.
Three near the bottom of this handicap will need to win to get in, I suspect. ROYAL THIEF is another Elliott in the Gigginstown colours but is 10 lbs down from the 138 when headed two out in last year’s Kim Muir when finishing sixth. This season has been 88FP. Nothing against the horse, but this represents the bloat of Elliott horses amongst the entries. Who would be that interested in seeing Royal thief line up in the final 34 at Liverpool? Would have to win here to really feel like he has earned a place – or is that too harsh of me?
FAKEIRA left Elliott’s yard in December and is winless in 13 chase starts. Now with Eoin Griffin, is running off 125 and is therefore below the minimum threshold of 130 required to qualify, though the handicapper may well add the Irish tax on Tuesday. Fakeira is 40/1 for Sunday’s event, so a more interesting candidate even with two pounds fewer to carry is WHERE IT ALL BEGAN, another chase novice for whom this is by far their biggest career test to date. You probably do not need to guess who trains this one, too…and Jack Kennedy has chosen to rid this one.
February 16, 2024 at 21:05 #1681342I don’t think Empire will stay , I’d truly love Sandy to get a big run though after what happened last year
Pick 3 on Saturday champion 2025/2026
February 19, 2024 at 19:49 #1681738Confirmed Nassalam to miss Cheltenham Gold cup in preference for Grand National aim
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February 20, 2024 at 00:27 #1681764Anyone know whether Ben Harvey will keep the ride on Mahler Mission?
Only just over 100 rides over fences.Value Is EverythingFebruary 20, 2024 at 12:54 #1681813OK, with today being weights day, a question. Why, apart from tradition, are the weights announced so far ahead of the race? Why can’t it wait until two weeks before, or after the Cheltenham Gold Cup, say?
It’s an absolute nonsense, if you ask me. So, please tell me why I am wrong, without resorting to ‘it’s always been done that way’ as a reply.
February 20, 2024 at 13:07 #1681815My ew 3 at present…
Kitty’s Light 40-1
Mahler Mission 16-1. 5 places
I Am Maximus 25-1. 5 placesFebruary 20, 2024 at 13:51 #1681819My 5 win only bets are (with the average price taken):
Wish I took the 40/1, Mike.Kitty’s Light 25/1
Corach Rambler 14/1
Mahler Mission 17/1
Minella Indo 31/1
Threeunderthrufive 36/1Value Is EverythingFebruary 20, 2024 at 14:05 #1681821Quelle Farce…
A few years ago they were going through a regrettable phase of trying to make an occasion out of the weight reveal. Think FA Cup draw, but more embarrassing. The most painful example being about 8 years ago when they decided to hold a Facebook livestream at 8 in the evening in front of a crowd of disinterested drunks. It was excruciating to watch, and they clearly knew it because they’ve not attempted it since.
I too don’t understand the need to maintain this outdated tool that allows trainers to lie to punters until the middle of February, but the higher ups clearly still see value in it.
February 20, 2024 at 14:19 #1681822Why can’t it wait until two weeks before, or after the Cheltenham Gold Cup, say?
Probably because they don’t want to discourage Grand National horses running at Cheltenham.
Value Is EverythingFebruary 20, 2024 at 14:46 #168182894 entered 11 Not Qualified…83 given a weight
Waiting to see what weights are
My antepost bets similar to go gingertipster
Minello Indo, Kitty’s Light, Mahler Mission, threeunderthrufive, I am maximusVf x
February 20, 2024 at 15:16 #1681830Gingertipster managed get hold of weights
RANDOX GRAND NATIONAL WEIGHTS REVEALED AT 3pm TODAY
4m 2f 74y. For 7YO+. Total Prize Fund £1,000,000.
Aintree, 4.00pm, Saturday 13th April .
94 entered 6 Not Qualified..1 withdrawn….87 given a weight1 Hewick 11st 12lb 169
2 Conflated 11st 9lb 166
3 Noble Yeats 11st 8lb 165
4 Capodanno 11st 4lb 161
5 Coko Beach 11st 4lb 161
6 Nassalam 11st 4lb 161
7 Fakir D’Oudairies 11st 3lb 160
8 Ash Tree Meadow 11st 2lb 159
9 Corach Rambler 11st 2lb 159
10 I Am Maximus 11st 2lb 159
11 Janidil 11st 2lb 159
12 Minella Indo 11st 2lb 159
13 Asterion Forlonge 11st 1lb 158
14 Mahler Mission 11st 1lb 158
15 Stattler 11st 1lb 158
16 Classic Getaway 11st 157
17 Delta Work 11st 157
18 Foxy Jacks 11st 157
19 Threeunderthrufive 10st 13lb 156
20 Galvin 10st 12lb 155
21 Farouk D’Alene 10st 11lb 154
22 Salvador Ziggy 10st 11lb 154
23 Eldorado Allen 10st 10lb 153
24 Letsbeclearaboutit 10st 10lb 153
25 Ain’t That A Shame 10st 9lb 152
26 Fury Road 10st 9lb 152
27 James Du Berlais 10st 9lb 152
28 Bronn 10st 8lb 151
29 Vanillier 10st 8lb 151
30 Dusart 10st 7lb 150
31 Le Milos 10st 7lb 150
32 Longhouse Poet 10st 7lb 150
33 Mr Incredible 10st 7lb 150
34 Latenightpass 10st 6lb 149
35 Minella Crooner 10st 6lb 149
36 Run Wild Fred 10st 6lb 149
37 Adamantly Chosen 10st 5lb 148
38 Chemical Energy 10st 5lb 148
39 Mac Tottie 10st 5lb 148
40 Favori De Champdou 10st 4lb 147
41 Limerick Lace 10st 4lb 147
42 Meetingofthewaters 10st 4lb 147
43 Monbeg Genius 10st 4lb 147
44 Roi Mage 10st 4lb 147
45 The Goffer 10st 4lb 147
46 Chambard 10st 3lb 146
47 Eklat De Rire 10st 3lb 146
48 Embittered 10st 3lb 146
49 Galia Des Liteaux 10st 3lb 146
50 Gevrey 10st 3lb 146
51 Glengouly 10st 3lb 146
52 Kitty’s Light 10st 3lb 146
53 Panda Boy 10st 3lb 146
54 Busselton 10st 2lb 145
55 Empire Steel 10st 2lb 145
56 Fiddlerontheroof 10st 2lb 145
57 Malina Girl 10st 2lb 145
PREDICTED CUT at 14558 Desertmore House 10st 1lb 144
59 Fantastic Lady 10st 1lb 144
60 Highland Hunter 10st 1lb 144
61 Kinondu Kwetu 10st 1lb 144
62 Fakir D’Alene 10st 143
63 Ontheropes 10st 143
64 Shakem Up’Arry 10st 143
65 Amirite 9st 13lb 142
66 Angels Dawn 9st 13lb 142
67 Annual Invictus 9st 13lb 142
68 Diol Ker 9st 13lb 142
69 Riaan 9st 13lb 142
70 Sail Away 9st 13lb 142
71 Samcro 9st 13lb 142
72 Macs Charm 9st 12lb 141
73 Cepage 9st 11lb 140
74 Dunboyne 9st 11lb 140
75 Iron Bridge 9st 11lb 140
76 Tullybeg 9st 11lb 140
77 Famous Bridge 9st 10lb 139
78 Ashtown Lad 9st 9lb 138
79 Frontal Assault 9st 9lb 138
80 Mister Coffey 9st 9lb 138
81 Good Boy Bobby 9st 8lb 137
82 Tommie Beau 9st 7lb 136
83 Revels Hill 9st 6lb 135
84 Where It All Began 9st 6lb 135
85 Moroder 9st 2lb 131
86 Full Back 9st 1lb 130
87 Minella Trump 9st 1lb 130
Not qualified
Battleoverdoyen, Fakiera, Its On The Line, Placenet, Royal Thief, So Des Flos
Scratched
Celebre D’AllenVf x
February 20, 2024 at 15:19 #1681832The Panda is up 3lbs from his Irish mark and that means he will almost certainly get a run. Just needs the rain to stay away.
February 20, 2024 at 15:24 #1681833My updated ew 3 at present…
Kittys Light 40-1.
Vanillier 14-1. 5 places.
Panda Boy 20-1. 5 places.February 20, 2024 at 15:29 #1681835Worried that Kittys Light won’t even get the opportunity to run now. Fancied him strongly for this and he’s the first horse I’ve ever backed antepost for it.
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