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- July 23, 2008 at 14:29 #174413
Your last post Paul was excellant, can not disagree with any of it. Very seldom say that about anyone’s post.

The one thing I will add is:
Although I believe the vast majority of GB and I racing is straight, the skulduggery that does go on is usually found in the lower grades. Where it is difficult for owners to make a profit by winning races alone. And backing them is more important to connections. Have found it impossible over the years to make a profit in this grade, so do not (or very rarely) bet in such races. Inside information in lower grade races I believe is more important than in higher echelons. Us form students don’t have much chance.
Then again of course, it could be I am just not good enough at spotting value in this class.

Mark
Value Is EverythingJuly 23, 2008 at 15:53 #174433Some will argue a bent jockey coming back to racing, and a paedophilic teacher going back to teaching are not the same thing. Aren’t they?
quote]Hardly. Don’t think peoples lives get ruined by cheating in a horse race. Get some perspective please.
JohnJ.
July 23, 2008 at 16:21 #174437in the main I struggle with higher grade races becasue they are so competitive. I find the lower end of the scale easier as often there are only two or three horses with realistic chances.
Ditto.
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July 23, 2008 at 16:53 #174441Some will argue a bent jockey coming back to racing, and a paedophilic teacher going back to teaching are not the same thing. Aren’t they?
quote]Hardly. Don’t think peoples lives get ruined by cheating in a horse race. Get some perspective please.
JohnJ.
Both are a potential breach of trust – the scale of "breach" is different but the underlying trust issue is the same.
July 23, 2008 at 17:18 #174449Some will argue a bent jockey coming back to racing, and a paedophilic teacher going back to teaching are not the same thing. Aren’t they?
quote]Hardly. Don’t think peoples lives get ruined by cheating in a horse race. Get some perspective please.
JohnJ.
Both are a potential breach of trust – the scale of "breach" is different but the underlying trust issue is the same.
Maybe overcharging pupils for their annual school trip might be on par.
JohnJ.
July 30, 2008 at 01:32 #175272loved his book the ‘wayward lad’, much better than the like of Dickie Johnsons going into detail of his sunday roast
July 30, 2008 at 11:36 #175308loved his book the ‘wayward lad’, much better than the like of Dickie Johnsons going into detail of his sunday roast

Plenty of good works of fiction that would rank alongside the wayward lad. Personally I would love to read a warts n all version
August 1, 2008 at 21:00 #175710Firefox,
You wrote.
"There is no mention in the statutes that the defendent is then subject to a further lifetime of punishment meted out by kangaroo courts hastily appointed by the general public armed with facts largely drawn from ill-informed sources. It is, as far as I am still aware, the purpose and intention of our judicial system to rehabilitate. The general public has its part to play in this".I think you will find that sex offenders go on a sex offender list and are watched for life by the police and will never get jobs dealing with persons they have wronged.
I think you will also find that people who defraud people of money working in the finance industry would be very lucky to get a job again within that industry if at all.
A person working in a supermarket caught thieving would again be very lucky to get a job within that industry.So i am afraid you are way off the mark.
Yes the judicial system does try to rehabilitate, (but struggles) but those guilty persons very rarely get a job back in the indusrty that they have found to have wronged unless of course they lie.
There is nothing wromg with those persons then starting different careers to be given a chance to rehabillitate but it should not be in the same industry.
The same I am afraid should apply to racing and those found guilty should never be allowed back.
That would then send out the correct message.
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