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    Jasolong
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    Gordon Elliott giving high appraisal to Samcro during the week and his work has been great and he’s withdrawn on the day.
    However, he’s not Nicky Henderson so I think we should let him off and I think the racing industry is going to let him off too so that’s superb.
    How can we possibly put Nicky and Gordon in the same bracket? Wouldn’t be fair.

    #1513307
    Mike007
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    Is Samcro injured or is it due to the ground?

    I saw one of the John Durkan race previews either on the tele or online, can’t remember which, where Elliott stated that Samcro will be better in the spring on better ground. I didn’t have a bet in today’s race but I wouldn’t have been on him due to hearing/seeing this quote and having the ground issue on my mind.

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    clivexx
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    It’s a fair point

    #1513311
    Jasolong
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    I was assuming Gordon Elliott and Willie Mullins would be relieved of such criticism and thankfully you’ve confirmed it. They’ve never been shady with the public whatsoever. Let’s all get nicky!! Get those pitchforks out

    #1513313
    Jasolong
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    Also Mike Henderson has said many times over the years that Altior is better on faster ground so why doesn’t thay relieve him for withdrawing him yesterday?

    You’re going to say because he’s won many times on soft ground?

    Well so has samcro! Lol he’s won on heavy and soft countless times.

    So you can see the double standards.

    #1513322
    Mike007
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    I guess from your post its coz of the going rather than health.

    On heavy ground in grade 1 company Samcro got thrashed by Faugheen last December his only race with heavy in the ground description at grade 1 level.

    On the other hand, the going was described as soft good to soft in places at Sandown which Altior has winning grade 1 form on.

    I suppose at the top level when you aren’t the best on ratings anyway, no point Samcro running on really bad ground if he ain’t gonna do himself justice.

    #1513327
    Jasolong
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    He’s won 2 grade 1s with heavy in the description and a grade 3

    #1513366
    shipithollabolla
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    Samcro feels like a borderline welfare concern. In the build-up to Cheltenham, Elliott was talking about how the horse needs long sessions on the nebuliser at home to help his breathing.

    Feels like they’re going to enormous lengths to hold him together and keep him a viable racehorse. Where do you draw the line and stop?

    #1513389
    Mike007
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    According to the Racing Post the G1 wins are on soft not heavy. Elliott also said in an interview that he shouldnt have run him on heavy last season and wouldn’t be doing so again. See below.

    https://www.racingpost.com/news/dual-cheltenham-festival-hero-samcro-not-favourite-on-return-to-action/456973

    #1513718
    cormack15
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    Needs to look after him as in my TRF TTF :cry:

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