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    TheTinMan87
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    Strength of his finish relative to the weakness of Fury Roads though? This a Fury Road who Conflated comfortably dispatched.

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    FinalFurlong91
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    Paul was just letting him pop away, didn’t ask him for a big one at any point

    He can jump big when asked if needed

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    He ballooned at least 2 and was in close at a couple more

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    Avatar photoIanDavies
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    He might win by default because the horses who have impressed me more are either out for the season, disappointed last time or couldn’t win an egg and spoon race in the month of March.

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    Really not convinced by that win

    He’s an incredible horse but think he’s better over 2.5

    Winners have a poor record in the Cheltenham equivalent, possibly because it’s a different test of a horse

    I’ll be very interested in Simon Rowland’s sectional analysis

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    I think if there was another 2 furlongs to run yesterday he’d have won further as he wasn’t stopping at all.
    sectionals will be interesting but he looks a worthy favourite to me

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    Ask yourself this – who else among the Cheltenham Gold Cup entries could beat OR 163 Stattler by eight lengths going away?

    I’m sure A Plus Tard could – last year!

    I think L’Homme Presse could – only he’s out for the season!

    I reckon on his Haydock Park form Protektorat could – but he ran at Cheltenham like his wind had gone again!

    I suspect Bravemansgame could – if it was before 1st March at somewhere other than Cheltenham!

    The rest might struggle to beat Stattler, never mind Galopin Des Champs.

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    GDC was good yesterday but it was not a strong race. The Gold Cup will be the strongest Chase he has run in. He is no value at 6/4 and I would want him to drift out considerably before thinking of backing him.

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    Another 2 at Leopardstown is different to another 2 on the New Course but I’ll watch the replay without the emotion of the live experience

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    On pure ability he will carry this lot. He is certainly more relaxed, if he jumps clean and Paul puts him to sleep he won’t need waking up until turning for home. A fast pace will suit as long as his jumping holds up, a slow pace or normal pace and its go collect

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    “On pure ability he will carry this lot.”

    Not so sure about that, Nathan. I’d say the actual form shown by A Plus Tard in winning last season’s Gold Cup is ahead of anything Galopin Des Champs has done.

    The problem, of course, is that APT has only run once since and blew out completely.

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    ATP prep has been shot to pieces, wouldn’t touch him with a barge pole at this point

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    In order to decline to touch something with a barge pole one would first need to own a barge pole.

    And in order to own a barge pole one would presumably first need to own a barge.

    As stated above, OR 180 A Plus Tard is about 10lb ahead of this horse in Chezza’s book, but that form is “so last year, darling” and Chezza isn’t seeing what can beat Galopin Des Champs THIS year.

    That said, at 6/4 he’s not one to bet the barge on.

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    Providing Facile Vega, Jonbon and Con Hill win, not much to ask for.. :rose: :wacko: :scratch:
    I’ll be on GDC at 150/1, 125/1 and 100/1
    I won’t be cashing out or partially cashing out either, that is for wimps.. :whistle:

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    Chezza: “The rest might struggle to beat Stattler, never mind Galopin Des Champs.”

    Steeplechasing: *clears throat politely*

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    Very occasionally the big tell in a big race is not what happens between start and finish, but in the minute afterwards – Galopin Des Champs took quite some time to pull up, looking like a horse who has just learned the human equivalent of riding a bike and is looking forward to getting back on. Short version: the penny has dropped and he has the energy and stamina to make the best of it. I was surprised they pushed him out in price.

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    Nathan what’s been said about Vega ? , lit up which didn’t help but went out like a light

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