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  • #18200
    Coggy
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    Does anyone know the reason that Ocean War was ridden by Barzalona today rether than Dettori ?
    I understand that it wasn’t trained by bin Suroor, but have I missed something about their riding arrangements and is Barzalona based here now and sharing the rides ?
    Thanks in anticipation

    #350192
    Avatar photoricky lake
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    agree Coggy , Frankie was there , and in truth this Kid looks like his replacement , looks like Frankie will be seeing a lot of this kid from the sidelines

    A good horse as well , he simply cantered in ….

    Ricky

    #350212
    apracing
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    Most of the Godolphin horss from this trainer have been ridden by Ahmed Ajtebi in recent seasons, so it’s him that Barzalona has replaced.

    Dettori has only ridden about 10% of the Al Zarooni runners, mainly when they appear in group races – for example Dettori always rode Rewilding.

    AP

    #350216
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    Barzalona is retained by the Wertheimer Brothers in France (according to yesterdays RP) and is attached to the Fabre yard – fortunately Fabre has two very very good young French jockeys and I hope that MB is eventually the replacement for Dettori.

    #350271
    Avatar photoRubyisgodinthesaddle
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    barcelona look like a artist in the saddle…like a young Dettori

    Also this Zarooni guy can really train….really impressed with the set up this fella has compared to the other guy/donkey in Suroor. Seems to have a good back room team who can get these unraced horses moving

    #350359
    Avatar photoJJMSports
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    Barzalona looks very sharp indeed, much in the same mould as young Will Buick. Anything instead of Ajtebi is an improvement! He has two jobs in France though, so won’t be around in England long.

    #350360
    Avatar photoJJMSports
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    Barzalona looks very sharp indeed, much in the same mould as young Will Buick. Anything instead of Ajtebi is an improvement! He has two jobs in France though, so won’t be around in England long.

    #350364
    Anonymous
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    LOL.

    2YO’s 2010 –

    Suroor – 40/115 @ 35%

    Al Zarooni – 31/191 @ 16%

    Never let the facts get in the way of heat of the moment perceptions. :lol:

    #350379
    Coggy
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    Perhaps a more relevant statistic is last 12 months figures of all ages on turf

    bin Suroor 76 wins from 425 i.e. 17.8%
    al Zarooni 47 winners from 288 i.e. 16.3%

    Having said that bin Suroor has a better record on the all weather but I have little interest in that sphere.

    I think that it would be interesting to know how the horses are allocated between the two before I would wish to pass comment on who is doing the best etc

    #350413
    deltaman
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    I think a more valid point is the fact that the Godolphin horses have not lacked any track work due to bad weather in Dubai, unlike any of the Newmarket trainers.

    #350419
    Avatar photoRubyisgodinthesaddle
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    Zarooni is training newmarket maiden winners…..not redcar and folkestone maiden winners like suroor

    #350516
    Librettist
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    in 2010:

    Suroor

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    1/4 (25%) at Folkestone (0/0 with 2yo’s)
    1/5 (20%) at Redcar (1/2 with 2yo’s)

    Al Zarooni

    :
    1/4 (25%) at Folkestone (1/3 with 2yo’s)
    1/5 (20%) at Redcar (1/4 with 2yo’s)

    Ascot in 2010:

    Suroor

    6/24 (25%)

    Al Zarooni

    0/17 (0%)

    Newmarket:

    Suroor

    10/67 (15%)

    Al Zarooni

    7/47 (15%)

    Lets not worry about facts.

    #350519
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    That’s 0/2 Ruby. What else have you got mate? :lol:

    #350522
    Librettist
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    0/2 (0%) :D

    #350529
    Avatar photoRubyisgodinthesaddle
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    Damn you all and your stats :wink:

    My Point….is simples…..Zarooni is going to beat Suroor out the door this year. For a guy just getting into British racing last year to move in the right direction so quick with Rewilding their first proper Derby runner in years.

    I dont need to ask how much horse flesh has gone missing in Newmarket with Suroor

    #350545
    Anonymous
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    LOL. Lies, lies, and damn stats …….. Rewilding was an easy one. He arrived fit and ready from the Fabre yard. Few better "pre-trainers" around. :lol:

    #350582
    Avatar photoRubyisgodinthesaddle
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    Oh look another winner by Zarooni at a proper track in Laajooj. Newmarket and now Newbury :wink:

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