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  • #8670
    zilzal
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    One can appreciate Art Connoisseur being favourite given his win in the Coventry at Ascot and his likely appreciation of the underfoot conditions at Newbury. 7/4, though, is a little short as the Coventry may not have been a vintage one and his low draw tomorrow may just possibly prove a disadvantage.Brian Smart’s Spin Cycle (R Mullen) at 10s deserves to take his chance on the basis of his Norfolk stakes second to South Central.The fast 5f course at Goodwood may not have suited him last time out. The ground and the 6f test here is unknown territory for the colt.

    Good Luck if your’re playing in this one

    #177646
    Getzippy
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    Marine Boy to make all.

    Zip

    #177655
    Avatar photoMDeering
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    Marine Boy’s a One Cool Cat from an unstoppable trainer who predicts this one to be the best of his juvenile yard.

    But you’ve got Art Connoisseur, Spin Cycle, Shaweel amongst others with stronger form AND most importantly, more race experience.

    Interestingly, no G1 nominations for Marine Boy.

    Not betting in this one.

    #177658
    seabird
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    The way he was backed at Newbury suggests that he had been showing plenty against Group winners at home.

    He was very impressive when winning at Newbury.

    But, he has only won a maiden, and even though the second has franked the form, this is a huge step up.

    If he is capable of winning this it will speak volumes for his trainer, in my opinion.

    Colin

    #177660
    Friggo
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    Interestingly, no G1 nominations for Marine Boy

    He’s a gelding, and I believe that’s the only reason he isn’t entered in G1s, i.e. he isn’t eligible!

    #177663
    Avatar photoMDeering
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    Is that simply a traditional part of racing law, or do you Britons have to be THAT elitist? :wink:

    #177666
    seabird
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    Don’t restart the "should geldings be allowed to run in The Derby topic?", please. :roll:

    I got a severe scorching last time!

    Colin

    #177679
    guskennedy
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    Marine Boy, for me. It might have only been a maiden but the time for a horse making his debut was splendid.

    #177687
    Bulwark
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    Really like the top three in the betting, but dont like the prices, if the ground was quicker I would probably have a go on deposer at 20-1, but as it stands, i think I’ll play Shaweel e/w at 14-1 in the hope that he can do something from the front.

    Im hoping the turn in ground may see a resurgence of the one cool cats and so Marine boy looks decent but he is far too short. Can forgive Art Connoiseur for a bad run last time, as something definitely looked amiss, and he is possibly not a bad price at 15/8, not a price I’d want to play though. The johannesburg horse Jobe could go well at 7-1, but again I’d want a better price than that as he may want 7f, being out of a Conquistador cielo mare.

    Shaweel e/w @ 14-1 for interests sake but think a lot of this field want faster conditions.

    #177693
    zilzal
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    Nice One, Bulwark! Hope you had a few quid on.

    My selection didn’t act on the ground and the market knew it :(

    #177698
    Bulwark
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    Cheers Zilzal, only had a few quid on for interests sake, didnt expect him to win like that. Still think most of field would have been disadvantaged by ground so wouldnt think form is as strong as it first appears.

    Think I’ll have a little go on the yearling stakes as theres some nice e/w prices there.

    Noble Jack e/w @ 50-1
    Heliodor e/w @ 100-1
    Evelyn May e/w @ 50-1 and
    Elnawin e/w @ 50-1

    #177699
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    Is that simply a traditional part of racing law, or do you Britons have to be THAT elitist? :wink:

    A poll of brood mares resulted in a resounding vote that wedding tackle has to be in working order for these races. :wink:

    Nice pick Bulwark though the result leaves the form pretty muddled.

    #177700
    Bulwark
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    If only they came in like that all the time, what a day for the e/ws so far. :lol: :lol:

    14-1 and a 50-1 straight after.

    #177742
    Getzippy
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    Well picked indeed, Bulwark…

    Now, a £10 double at 14/1and 50/1 pays….

    Zip

    Ps,
    One word for Marine Boy – pants!

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