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OK LGR…James W has written numerous articles on Paul N….where have a commented negatively on it let alone a comment referring to a sick back. Nicholls is clearly an outstanding trainer..top of his game.
SHL summed up my views pefectly
i agree with sal that what he did with GW was superb and also agree with letsgetracing….
I think AOB would have been somewhat embarrased by some of that guff too
As would Nichols
Having seen AOB close up soothing a fractious horse, I don’t think JW’s article is over the top.
All fine and well but does that qualify him as a genius?
Have to say I was disappointed by Willoughby’s article. Alway’s have thought of him as an independent thinker, somewhat outside of established norms. So to see the word genius come from his keyboard in respect to a horse trainer, however much he skirts around it, makes me rethink that position. Is Aidan O’Brien a superb trainer of thoroughbred race horses? Without a doubt. Is he a genius? Based on my definition of the word definitely not. I do not think he is doing something singularly exceptional to warrant that tag. Can any poster on here say beyond any sense of doubt that say John Oxx, Dermot Weld, Michael Stoute, Andre Fabre etc etc. could not produce the same results that O’Brien does with exactly the same horses? Mr O’Brien’s reference to putting all your eggs in one basket concerning Holy Roman Emperor does not strike me as particularly smart, regardless of the enterprise.
Always this talk about genius trainers or even more suspect, genius jockeys. How many times did we here during the Cheltenham meet about “the genius that is Michael Dickinsonâ€ÂÂ
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<br>Michael Dickinson was a genius.<br>Even geniuses don’t get it right all the time. Ask Edison.;)
Quote: from clivex on 7:52 pm on Mar. 28, 2007[br]SHL summed up my views pefectly
i agree with sal that what he did with GW was superb and also agree with letsgetracing….
I think AOB would have been somewhat embarrased by some of that guff too
As would Nichols
Seriously, get yourself in order before the flat season starts proper. I think many people had enough of small minded comments before, especially for some certain person’s benefit, as indicated in previous days in jest by others.
For someone who has no bias whatsoever towards Ballydoyle, JW’s article was insightful, informative and entertaining.
Andrew
So Aidan O’Brien isn’t a genius because he’s only doing what Andre Fabre would do?
One little thing makes that logic fall down: Andre Fabre is a genius.
Quote: from LetsGetRacing on 7:08 pm on Mar. 28, 2007[br]And had it been about Paul Nicholls or Phillip Hobbs (I can’t stand the latter, for what it’s worth) rather than an Irishman, Aidan and JJD would have reacted in exactly the same way as clive.<br>
LGR,
I actually wouldn’t, so please don’t presume to think you know what my opinions are on trainers. I think Hobbs and Nicholls are excellent trainers, if JW wrote an article on both like the AOB article, I wouldn’t have commented one way or the other….
JohnJ.<br>
(Edited by johnjdonoghue at 9:22 am on Mar. 29, 2007)
No. I feel your response (and lots of your other responses) are designed purely to provoke Aidan, or others.
I echo what someone previously said about if it were Nicholls or Hobbs.
Of course AOB is a top class trainer. The thing I found surprising about the article was that so much was made about knowing all your employees individually in what is ( after all) a relatively small business.
I would have thought that every good businessman knows all his employees when he only has 100 to 200 in the same way every good headmaster knows all his pupils
Quote: from Salselon on 8:48 am on Mar. 29, 2007[br]No. I feel your response (and lots of your other responses) are designed purely to provoke Aidan, or others.
I echo what someone previously said about if it were Nicholls or Hobbs.<br>
Well firsty I am Irish and Ive taken Clivex up on one or two comments in the past particularly with relation to Irish Issues.
But I still strongly agree with this rather fawning article. I also strongly agree with Brendans disdain for the word genius being used like it is. Genius is overused in all walks of life. Mozart was a genius, so was Einstein…… If you want to use the word genius to describe a trainer, then I suppose we could use Dickinson or perhaps Martin Pipe as an example. After all he rewrote the manuel. He was way ahead of everybody else. S
SHL
Mozart was a genius, so was Einstein……
But would they be able to train 7 Arc winners? :biggrin:
Salselon
My "sickbag" comment was not aimed at Aidan who can more than hold his own…
It was the article. <br>
Well, according to this GW is still in the Lockinge at the 5/6 day entry stage so does anyone have any info?
http://horses.sportinglife.com/Racecard … 02,00.html
Surely he isn’t coming back this quickly….
(Edited by PAULCS at 3:04 pm on May 14, 2007)
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