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  • #238529
    Avatar photoZarkava
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    Did Stoute ever give a reason for Doctor Fremantle’s poor run at Ascot? The only horse I can possibly see winning are him, Enroller and All The Aces and the latter 2 both want cut.

    #238572
    ARWalsh
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    Campanologist must have a chance if he gets his way at the front. Put up a creditable performance at Royal Ascot and Godolphin seem to be doing okay at the minute. Ive backed him at 5-1 with Ladbrokes and can’t see him finishing out of the first three. I do like Duncan but 5-2 is a little short imo hopefully Frankie will run a blinder!

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    Campanologist must have a chance if he gets his way at the front. Put up a creditable performance at Royal Ascot and Godolphin seem to be doing okay at the minute. Ive backed him at 5-1 with Ladbrokes and can’t see him finishing out of the first three. I do like Duncan but 5-2 is a little short imo hopefully Frankie will run a blinder!

    I feel exactly the same about Duncan. I’d have backed him at 3/1 but 5/2 is a bit too short. He’s no bigger on Betfair at the moment which suggests he may shorten still further.

    #238617
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    The rain is going to have a big impact here.

    If it stays away Campanologist and Doctor Freemantle may be advantaged.

    If it comes in force then All The Aces, Enroller and Schiaparelli will be favoured. Have bcked the Jarvis and Muir horses.

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    #238622
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    The rain is likely to have little impact seeing as there is none forecast and the ground today was good. Franie can’t get off Campanologist after the last run and I think that has led to his stablemate being overpriced. He’s won 3 more Group 1’s than all of his oppoenets put together and gets into this without a penalty.

    Until Doctor Freemantle has shown that he’ll consent to settle, then I couldn’t have him on my mind.

    #238643
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    The rain is likely to have little impact seeing as there is none forecast and the ground today was good. Franie can’t get off Campanologist after the last run and I think that has led to his stablemate being overpriced. He’s won 3 more Group 1’s than all of his oppoenets put together and gets into this without a penalty.

    Until Doctor Freemantle has shown that he’ll consent to settle, then I couldn’t have him on my mind.

    Depends what forecast you are looking at David.

    The BBC has a blue blob over Newmarket at midnght (now), again at 15:00 and 18:00. The latter will be after racing but it does show it is in the area. They are small blobs so as my last post suggests, it is very possible they will miss the course entirely.

    Do agree Schiaparelli does look value. Now had a saver on him.

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    Actually I think Schiaparelli’s price (8/1) is very little value at all. He does have something to prove on English soil vs. German/Italian Group 1s and is very lightly raced for 18 months.

    He could be much superior to these (as I’ve alluded to) and I rate his talent highly but jockey-wise he is a second string and the element of the unknown doesn’t support his case against Duncan, All The Aces etc etc

    Problem is, I don’t think 8/1 appealing but I’d find 12s or 10s to be too large a price for the bookies to offer. Definitely is a curious case, and as mentioned I’ll bet with interest, not confidence.

    #238650
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    The rain is likely to have little impact seeing as there is none forecast and the ground today was good. Franie can’t get off Campanologist after the last run and I think that has led to his stablemate being overpriced. He’s won 3 more Group 1’s than all of his oppoenets put together and gets into this without a penalty.

    Until Doctor Freemantle has shown that he’ll consent to settle, then I couldn’t have him on my mind.

    SMS singled him out as a horse who had done exceptionally well over the winter but you hit the nail right on the head David. In the Hardwicke Stakes he burned himself out after 4 furlongs which cost your truly a right few quid.

    However he settled fine at Chester and the last time he ran here for some reason. It could be a case of horses for courses with him and he would have to go very close if he does settle.

    I’m sticking with All the Aces if he run and having a RFC on the two.

    All the Aces is a horse I have followed and has always looked as if he could go right to the top. They backed him like money had gone out of fashion last time and he won very easily in the end.

    I think the front 2 in the betting are beatable and if All the Aces is taken out I’ll slap the lot on SMS’s.

    Campanologist is very frustration always seems to find one too good for him. I think Dunan will find this race far too hot for him to cope and I have have no idea why anyone would think the one paced Enroller would have the remotest chance of winning this.

    All the Aces 5pts 5/1 Doctor Freemantle 3pts 7/1 3pts RFC

    #238667
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    The ground will be just fine for Schiaparelli. This is a class horse and with Godolphin "second strings" having a habit of winning fairly regularly in this context and seeing he is 13’s and bigger on the machine I’ll take my chances at those prices.

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    After much deliberation, i’ve opted for Camponologist at 9/2. It’s not a race that’s much use from a gambling point of view, but i feel that the track will be suited to horse and Jockey. Once he hits the front he will be hard to pin back, with the tough finish. I guess that he might come on a little from Ascot.

    #238723
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    According to Racing Post, Simon Crisford says Schiaparelli "is like an elephant" …. doesn’t sound too promising for me!! I’ve done Campanologist at 5s though, so fingers crossed.

    #238726
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    What a superb effort by a horse written off both verbally and tactically race-wise.

    I’m very happy for him to be carrying my money for the Arc.

    #238729
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    Classic case of a half length being the difference between a small fortune or a sizeable profit. What a shame. I’m at work and did not see the race so I have no idea what facilitated the drift but those win place prices on betfair towards the end were sheer madness. Did Schiaparelli show up with three legs?

    #238730
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    What a superb effort by a horse written off both verbally and tactically race-wise.

    I’m very happy for him to be carrying my money for the Arc.

    I’d be surprised if he went to The Arc, if he went he’d be a good bet on the day so I wouldn’t venture antepost as I suspect Spanish Moon would be more of the candidate with him not being able to race in Britain.

    #238731
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    The winner was a tad lucky for me as with a clear run the third would/should have won.

    #238732
    Avatar photoMDeering
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    What a superb effort by a horse written off both verbally and tactically race-wise.

    I’m very happy for him to be carrying my money for the Arc.

    I’d be surprised if he went to The Arc, if he went he’d be a good bet on the day so I wouldn’t venture antepost as I suspect Spanish Moon would be more of the candidate with him not being able to race in Britain.

    I don’t think Doctor Fremantle was written off by SMS.

    I know Schiaparelli was, the horse I’m referring to.

    And yes Brendan, I didn’t catch the interview on Racing UK but they said Simon Crisford declared he wouldn’t run a lick. Punters reacted accordingly.

    #238733
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    All my trends instincts say I should stick with Doctor Freemantle, but based on his two runs this season, I’m going to reluctantly pass on him. If he ends up a big price (10/1+), I’ll probably have a small saver on him…& if he ends up winning I’ll be unhappy

    I’ll drive you to Dover Colin and we can jump together. :lol:

    I’m not as unhappy as you must be but sick nonetheless. He’s one of my main horses to follow this season and while I backed him I too was a bit put off by his last effort.

    Won’t see 8/1 about him for a long time unless he run against Sea the Stars in the Juddmonte then we wont want it :wink:

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