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Looks an interesting renewal and Trinity College is probably going to have to be every bit as good as Fallon suggested to take this on just his second start. Teofilo sets a very stiff standard, his maiden win against Red Rock Canyon looks solid whilst his listed win at Leopardstown also looks very solid, the runner-up placed in the Chesham and the fifth Hammers Boy going on to defy 95 in a nursery next time. Teofilo rates a solid bet at 9/4 imo.
I see Trinity College is being well supported for the Guineas – BP 16/1 now.
I just fancy Teofilo for this one who has the form in the book.
TC will probably be favourite for the Guineas after this if he beats Teofilo on only his second run. The ground will be important, if its genuinely good I think TC will have too many gears for the Galileo colt.
It hardly failed for stamina today did it? The horse was never really travelling having been ridden in completely different fashion to his debut. Wouldn’t be the first one from the stable this season to bomb out tried in group company after an impressive maiden win to bounce back would he?
Drop in trip?!??! Ran as green as grass and stayed on well to be fourth. Might not be a superstar but he is certainly not a sprinter.
I did not back it either. You laid it ciorrectly, as did many many people judging by the price it ended up. However I am certain you backed it for the wrong reasons juding on the result. But hey still money in the pocket.
I doubt we will ever see this horse over 6furlongs, he does not have a sprinters pedigree or physique.
(Edited by Aidan at 4:54 pm on Aug. 26, 2006)
I saw the race. The winner had to work hard. Decent horses no doubt but I’d be surprised if any of them are superstars. Trinity College was held up, never really travelled and never looked like getting in a blow, disappointing.
EC I did see the race and would have to disagree. Travelled ok towards the back but niggled along 4f out. Was last with 1.5f to run but did stay on towards the finish. He might have found the race a shock to the system. The Guineas looks a long way off now but 8f may suit.
Quote: from EC on 5:48 pm on Aug. 26, 2006[br]two people watch a race..and draw completely different views from it
just shows..nothing is for definate in this game..all about one opinion agin another
<br>It’s all about opinions. May be best to ignore mine at the moment though as I’m struggling to pick my nose let alone a winner.
Regardless of the merits of the horse, the question you have to ask yourself is did Fallon come back in and say to O’Brien this horse rode like a horse that needs dropping back to six furlongs. On the basis of todays race and his debut there is absolutely no chance….anyone who saw the race could see that for themselves.
Jim Bolger says the winner is the best horse he has ever trained, and he has had plenty of good ones.
So why do you place so much store by remarks of racereaders, some of them clearly not very good at their jobs (especially at judging the pace a race has been run at), so often EC?
You didnt have any information to hand at all after the race yet you assumed the horse was a non stayer as it suited you. Your the only person on this thread that seems to think the horse lost the race due to him being a non-stayer.
Without the having the exact time, from seeing the race it told us it was a fair test. Not a end to end gallop but a decent 7 furlong test no doubt. All the horses were relaxed early on which further suggests that they were a fair gallop from the off. Given this and the testing nature of the Curragh track I think its fair to say TC stayed the trip fine, indeed the RP states:
"He lost a couple of places and came under strong pressure with two furlongs to run, but he was staying on again in the closing stages. He should derive significant benefit from this experience and an extra furlong will be in his favour."
So I wouldnt hold your breath regarding dropping him down to 6 furlongs.<br>
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