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    carvillshill
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    I’m sure we’ve covered this before but if we have I’ve forgotten, so apologies in advance, but it occurred to me the other day that despite a reasonable knowledge of French, I haven’t a bull’s notion what these weird compound French racehorse names mean. The same prefixes and suffixes seem to crop up a lot too. Can anyone explain the origin and meaning of such names as Patman and Pablo de Charmil, Ofarel d’Airy and so on and if there’s a system of naming of some kind like in trotting?

    #133593
    sberry
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    some i understand, some i don’t

    this one, i do : http://www.racingpost.co.uk/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=582345

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    Venusian
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    For A.Q.P.S. (Autre Que Pur Sang) horses, which includes trotters, anglo-arabs, as well as what we would call "half-breds", each year requires a horse’s name to begin with a designated letter of the alphabet. For example, foals of 2002 have names beginning with the letter "O", 2003 "P" and so on.

    As for suffixes, they may be the family name of the breeder, or the name of their farm, or the name of the local village. "Collonges", for example, is a place name.

    In English, because of the different grammatical structure of the language, prefixes are used, rarely with racehorses, but often with pedigree cats, dogs, cattle etc.

    The Aga Khan gives his racehorses names beginning with the same letter as that of their dams.

    #133638
    moehat
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    my favourite horse name ever was Sabin du Loir; we had a French student stay with us one year and she couldn’t explain the origin of it..have always meant to ask about ‘Collonges’….so thanks for info….

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    Gazs Way De Solzen
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    The French names are great i think.

    Ocean Du Moilin, Lou Du Moulin Mas, Obelix De Longechaux, etc…

    All good names.

    #133650
    TheCheekster
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    Made In France has to be the best named French bred!

    #133677
    Venusian
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    The "Moulin Mas" suffix comes from the name of a vineyard or farm, I believe, but I might be wrong.

    #133681
    Wallace
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    Moulin Mas. Moulin is a mill and Mas is a regional name for a house in Provence. So its a Provincal mill house in my book.

    #133684
    MikkyMo73
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    Made In France has to be the best named French bred![/quote

    I will take you on with "A French Horse" – great name :lol: .

    It’s as if the owners pondered for ages about a name and then, as they drank more wine, they just thought to hell with it, let’s just call it A French Horse – classic :lol:

    Mike

    #133744
    beckster
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    azertyuiop is the topline of a french typewriter,ile find out bout collonge as in neptune………..

    #133746
    quixallcrossett
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    Made In France has to be the best named French bred![/quote

    I will take you on with "A French Horse" – great name :lol: .

    It’s as if the owners pondered for ages about a name and then, as they drank more wine, they just thought to hell with it, let’s just call it A French Horse – classic :lol:

    Mike

    That’s probably right, the owner is Sir Clement Freud!

    #133750
    moehat
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    it even beats ‘weareagrandmother’…..or [?]nous sommes unes grande-meres [yes I know the grammar/spelling is a bit wonky!]

    #133776
    Friggo
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    azertyuiop is the topline of a french typewriter

    I always wondered about that. I made the connection regarding the top line of a keyboard, but was then perplexed as to why the horse wasn’t called ‘Qwertyuiop’! :lol:

    #133782
    Anonymous
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    I knew that the ever-helpful Wit had done something on this subject, though it took me a while to find it.

    https://theracingforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10546&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

    #133929
    beckster
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    azertyuiop is the topline of a french typewriter

    I always wondered about that. I made the connection regarding the top line of a keyboard, but was then perplexed as to why the horse wasn’t called ‘Qwertyuiop’! :lol:

    ha ha yea it took me a long time to work it out it 1st letter on 2nd n 3rd row then rest top line strange really… :wink:

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