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Whilst being a huge fan of Frankel I cannot help but think that this is a ridiculously short price.
This will potentially be his first clash with older horses such as Canford Cliffs and So You Think, with 3 year old rivals also potentially including Wooton Bassett and Dream AheadCoral are starting to see the light……
Last week they had Canford Cliffs to beat Frankel in a match bet at 9/4 and now he is 2/1 to beat all of them. By the time Frankel bombs out at Ascot Canford will be favourite………
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Nathan, or by the time he wins by eight lengths at Ascot he’ll be 1/4 for the Sussex… only to not turn up.
There’s a long way to Goodwod and from past experience I’ve learnt that the bookies know best. After all wouldn’t you say Frankel’s 2000 Guineas win was much better than Canford Cliff’s Lockinge Win?
I agree that his Guineas win was absolutely spectacular and I really hope that he wins. However I have always believed that 3 year olds are better placed to beat older horses later on in the season, and I just don’t think that he represents value here – not saying he won’t do it however
i can’t understand the comments on racing post by users. "CC has beat nothing compared to frankel".
ive never heard so much glorified crap in all my life.
you cannot compare frankels guineas win to CC last run, as CC is a 4yo now.
imo the only thing that stopped CC winning the guineas is the cock up ride it was given.
whats so formidable about the opponents frankel has beat. all over hyped in my opinion. CC would have all of the horses frankel has beat imo.
you dont ease a horse down in the final furlong against a genuine group 1 winner like RVW.
but, thats just my opinion. i wouldnt at all be suprised whichever wins in the sussex stakes, i just think CC isn’t getting the credit he deserves.
4/6 is a great price. If Frankel gets there and is on the top of his game, Canford Cliffs and Goldikova are gonna need about a five length head start to stand a chance. Queally will have learned how to ride Frankel a bit better than he did in the Guineas too where he went a bit too fast (whatever he says). There is still more to come from this machine.
Normally one learns to ride a flat horses in two rides and a jump horse in five.So what has Quelly been doing all last year?
After they refused my each way bet in the 7:05 at Sandown today, I don’t like defending Corals. But….
How likely is Goldikova or So You Think to turn up?
With two exceptional colts, are they both going to turn up here?
And if they do, how many othes are going to turn up?
Likely to be 5 or 6 figure field at most, with double figure prices everything else.At this point in time: If both Frankel and Canford Cliffs were to meet in a match, with both going in to the race in form, on good-firm; I’d make it about 4/6 Frankel and 6/4 Canford Cliffs. Of course other runners in the race would lessen both those prices. But there’s also a big possibility of just one of the pair turning up (where it would be long odds-on the other horse) don’t blame bookies for going 4/6 Frankel. I would not dream of offering prices this long before a race where one non-participation changes prices dramatically.
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Likely to be 5 or 6 figure field at most,
And where are they going to gett the stalls from?
I’m not convinced Canford will turn up for this anyway. After last years race Mr Hannon said that Goodwood was not his ideal track and there has also been rumours he could step up to 10 furlongs maybe with a Breeders Cup Classic in mind……
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I would like to see Frankel win because unlike Canford who is a product of his stables PR machine this horse has produced a number of spectacular performances to almost merit at this stage the "greatness" tag. whereas Canford is an above average Group 1 winner perhaps but by no means a superstar based on the fields he has beaten
Sea The Stars was never winning by spectacular distances but is a "great".
It’s a long season why would Hannon have Canford fully wound up for the Lockinge when he has bigger fish to battered in the up and coming months? You get the same prize money for coming 1st winning by 1 length as you would do winning by 10.
What does product of stables PR machine mean?…..
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If you do not know what "public relations" is then you are in trouble…
Coolmore are the ultimate masters of this game – Dylan Thomas is the best horse Aidan ever trained? Compared with Rock of Gibraltar, Galileo and High Chapparal…somehow I doubt it. Yeats speedy enough to win over a mile? Haha very funny…if Aidan ever retires from training horses he could land a plum job working for an MP I am sure
Does Hughsie and Hannon proclaiming Canford as the chosen one really mean anything outside his racetrack performances? When the benchmark is Paco Boy it is not hard for Canford to supersede this, but when the Benchmark is overall this claim looks more in the realm of fantasy.
Flat trainers are wily and they will be upping this horses reputation at every possible chance now especially as Messrs Magnier and Tabor now have a couple of his legs
All I am saying is…let the horse do the talking and reserve judgment until after that.
I’m always in trouble, nothing new there.
Fair play to Hannon and Hughes who said he was the best trained/ridden even before his 3 year campaign and still after defeats in the Greenham and 2000 Guineas and eventually proven right. And in the time between we heard the experts say….
"He’s a sprinter"…..
"He wont get a mile"…..
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