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  • #1453387
    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    Strong line up as usual for this…..

    https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/flat/flying-five-stakes/winner

    I think that Judicial looks very big at 25’s, certainly off the back of his Beverley Bullet win, while I much prefer the idea of So Perfect at 5f, so if he did trap here, then that 20’s would be tempting.

    I always take the view in this division that most of them can turn it out at least once a year, and for all he’s looked as if age is catching up with him, if Caspian Prince did make the journey, it wouldn’t be the biggest shock if he outran his 50’s. I think the fact that he’s dropped 15lbs tells it’s own story, but I can just see him bowing out in style here, and though I’ve not heard that he definitely goes, at 50’s, I can afford to take that chance.

    At the other end of the scale is Soffia. Best priced 5-2, but that looks well deserved. Flawless at The Curragh, and has put in more than one dynamite performance this season, and she looks progressive. I’m getting a nosebleed putting up a horse at 5-2, but I just think that could look massive come Sunday.

    Soffia 5-2
    Caspian Prince 50’s EW

    #1453389
    darren83
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    Agree Bob on SOFFIA took 5/2 last night

    #1453390
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    Urban Beat would be of interest to me if he showed up here. Murtagh on fire recently, had a very quiet start to the season. He does have a win over Soffia giving her 5pds earlier this season. Had a mid season break, before a prep 29th of August. Off 101 he’ll probably head to a handicap to be honest, whereever he shows up i will back him anyway.

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    #1453394
    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    Darren, really really not my kind of price, but I had to take it.

    #1454945
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    Looks a good renewal. I went 3/1 about Soffia here and 5/1 Soldier’s Call at the head of my market. Soffia has improved rapidly this season and was hugely impressive last time out but I think she will see a different Soldier’s Call this time.

    At a bit of a price I wouldn’t be surprised if Invincible Army runs well tomorrow. He has come up short at group 1 company on a couple of occasions granted, but he showed plenty of speed to lie up with Hello Youmzain for a long way in the Sprint Cup before weakening inside final furlong. He’s got plenty of ability and has shown a high level of form winning well in group 2 company this year.

    For me Soffia will take some beating, but this represents a better opportunity than of late for Soldiers Call given he has come up against Battaash and Blue Point at this level this season. And a small squeak for Invincible Army at a price. :good:

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    Im taking a chance on the magnificent mare HOUTZEN. 7/1 still available in a few places but doesnt look like it will last for long.

    Got within 3/4 of a length of Bataash when 2nd in the king george qatar stakes at goodwood. Houzen was the only one of the first 3 home to be held up which perhaps upgrades that perfomance even more. Baataash was in top form and broke yorks track record on his next run.
    I dont think they have tracks like goodwood in australia (correct me if im wrong)so it was a great perfromance on what was probably her first ever run on a track like that.
    On her 1st run in this country she was 7 1/4 lengths behind Baatash recieving jist 3lb.

    It can take horses a while to get acclimatised to a country that is on the other side of the world and in the opposite hemisphere. Different weather, different insects, different racing conditions pretty much different everything. The improvement from race 1 to race 2 was big and she probably has plenty more to come now she has been in the uk a while and can improve again.
    The Australian sprinters are generally considered the best in the world. Ground will suit, cracker of a draw in stall 12. She has won 7 of her 18 races in Australia. Theres a top irish jockey booked in C Keane.
    Meade knows the time of day with sprinters and Advertise has been one of the sprinters of the season for him (over 6f). He should have a fair idea as to her chance and she appears quite fancied.

    I think she will run a big race and shouldnt be underestimated. Im expecting that 7/1 to be a distant memory by the morning . She is as short as 4/1 with Coral.

    #1454968
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    I think Soffia is short enough here but it isn’t altogether unexpected after that blistering performance last time out. Soldiers Call lost a shoe that day and clearly didn’t run to his best so there is potential for a turnaround there. Houtzen is definitely interesting and could run a big one.

    Small each way double on Soffia and Star Catcher in the Prix Vermeille just for shitz n giggles. Nothing standing out at a price elsewhere. Buena Suerte!

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    With Skybet going Four Places, it makes sense to me to top up on Caspian.

    I’d like him to hit 66’s, but I’ll settle for more at 50’s.

    #1454985
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    Soldiers Call for me ew. He’s my ew Prix L’abbaye pick at the moment as well so a win would be handy.

    #1454998
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    The favs clearly progressive and the trainer knows how to train sprinters, but i can’t let Urban Beat go unbacked @ 33s/ 43 on exchange. He has 2 wins at the track, and a beating of Soffia the favourite at Naas this season giving her 5pds. Murtagh was in terrible form earlier in the season, but has sprung into form now. He had a reappearance run in a listed race + finished 3rd, that form isn’t good enough, but i’d presume that race was run with this in mind.

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    Can’t understand why Soffia isn’t shorter in the marker personally. Blitzed her rivals over CD last time out and put up an impressive performance. Havana Grey won the Sapphire Stakes last year on her way to winning this, so profile is similar there. Soldiers Call may have lost a shoe, but he was beaten 5L and is 3Lbs worse off here as well. Even his best is short of what Soffia did last time out.

    Unless that run was a fluke, then all the others have quite a lot to find on her and 2/1 looks a big price to me.

    She’s actually 4/4 at the Curragh as well.

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    This is a very interesting running of this.

    I might stretch to 2 here, with Soldiers Call 7-1, and So Pefect 11-1.

    #1455021
    Mike007
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    Got 4 places SC. Looking forward to this one.

    #1455023
    Mike007
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    Frenchy you may be right but I’d like to give a horse who ran on 3 legs another chance. :mail:

    #1455027
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    Oh well done Fairyland! I lost faith and didn’t back her individually this time but glad she did it.
    Ok it might be the weakest G1 sprint ever but still…having run over various trips, bashed her head and ran concussed at York, run on soft at Haydock very recently…
    finally it all went right for her and she gets a well deserved win :heart:

    #1455031
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    Well that was disappointing.
    Soffia travelled well for a long way but didn’t seem to like getting in a pocket, finding nowt once in the clear. Had seemed a genuine sort previously so worth giving another chance. Mabs Cross not concentrating, upset in paddock, in season? Slowly away and getting behind before late progress. Houtzen even worse; the ex-Australian horse may not be 100% genuine. Curragh doesn’t help hold up sorts and drawn/raced away from where the race took shape, but dissapointing all the same. Soldiars Call ran ok, but – on a line through So Perfect – SC not up to Nunthorpe running. That’s the four favs all below form. Not surprised Invincible Army ran better given the trainer’s in fantastic form at the moment. Ditto Fairyland and So Perfect/O’Brien. Former ran a well to place in the July Cup and 5th in Kings Stand. Suspect with so many below form she only needed to run to Newmarket and Ascot form with stablemate So Perfect running to her Nunthorpe placed effort too. Stable companions rated exactly the same by Timeform going in to the race, so can’t see them both improving by exactly the same amount. Be interesting to see how team Halifax rate the race… Turned out to be another poor quality Group 1/Flying Five imo.

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    #1455033
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    Fairyland scores 1360 points for you, greenasgrass. :good:

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