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Who’s OP?
You are, Professor.
OP means:
Original post or original poster, the first post or person to post on a topic in an online forumIt’s a long time since I’ve been here and I must admit I saw PT’s post and thought to myself "Crumbs, is he still here?" (no offence
) but I have to slightly defend him.
I’m no racing expert as anyone who’s seen me around over the last few years will know. I’m someone who watches when I can, never bets and never studies the Racing Post or the racing websites. I know bugger all in short.This forum should still have a place for the ignorant prawn like me who just wants to ask from time to time what everyone’s favourite horse/race course/jockey is etc.
I’m not necessarily saying PT is an ignorant prawn, but you get my drift. You should be more tolerant.To echo the OP, I’ve found that this year’s flat season, from a personal standpoint, has basically sucked. With a few notable exceptions (Can I aftertime like a mother and say I picked Captain Ramius before Pricewise did? Ta), I’ve not been able to pick my nose, let alone a winner.
Roll on the jumps!
BlueSky @pghenn.bsky.social
So don't run, just like the others always do
I suspect that it is the
reasonable
nature of my remarks that really annoys die-hard loyalists.
Yeah that’ll be it…your last few posts have included:
– Telling us that the Flat season is "8 weeks long"
– Slagging off Tom Segal on the grounds that you picked the Wokingham winner and he didn’t
– Insisting that betting on "14, 34, 36, 11 and a few alley bets" made roulette more profitable than racing
– ‘Proving’ that Jumps racing is a superior betting medium to the Flat based on the result of one race
– Saying "Good old Franny, I say. I bet he could ride well after a few" regarding Franny Norton drinking before race-riding
Yes, it’s the sheer
reasonable
nature of all your posts that annoys people.
Mike
Betlarge, that opening post is a sad cameo of everything this once great racing forum has become over the last 18 months.
When you consider we once had posters of the calibre of carvillshill, maxilon, apracing, davidjohnston, seanboyce, reethard, imperialcall, Pinza, TDK, the now rarely spotted Drone and Glenn, etc,etc,etc….
Hardly worth the effort anymore.
What effort??!
‘Carv’ ran a solid tipping thread but sold out to Betfair!! As did ‘Imperial’ but he went through a lean patch and lost interest. ‘AP’ was Ginges hero and got fed up of him ‘Brown-nosing’! Davidjohnson the Timeform Guru still looks in but he’s got ‘Ginger’ preaching the Halifax way to those who listen,’SeanBoyce’ is Greyer than Philip Schofields hair..enough said there.’Reethard’ bless him tried! (Always had a soft spot for him though eh Reet?),’Pinza’, legendary user of the English Language and ‘Corms’ Whipping boy was a great contributor,’Max5′ was King of the Sand Pit and could actually sell the stuff to the Arabs and ‘TDK’ was a good source for an early price. I’d agree they all deserve a place in the TRF Hall of fame! In a couple of years the same will be said for the likes of ‘Eclipse first’, ‘Jonibake’, ‘Steve Caution’,’Hurdy’ and the one with ‘Ginger hair’, as the ‘Angelic Upstarts’ like myself would say….’The times are a changin there changin me’!!Another gargantuan post there, Stilvi. Right up there with the other two thousand or so you haven’t made.
And I didn’t even mention, prufrock, Jeremy, silvoir,…
People whose love and passion for horseracing always came across in spades, regardless of whether I agreed with them or not.
And what have they been replaced with? A dumbed down forum, laden with sad, bitter people.
Thanks for the (mostly) good six and a half years. Time for pastures new.
over and out
But can you take your bike through the main gate yet BH?
I can categorically state that the P-word I used to describe OP was not "pleb".
OP means:
Original post or original poster, the first post or person to post on a topic in an online forumI thought he was a character in The Sons Of Anarchy?
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Another gargantuan post there, Stilvi. Right up there with the other two thousand or so you haven’t made.
And I didn’t even mention, prufrock, Jeremy, silvoir,…
People whose love and passion for horseracing always came across in spades, regardless of whether I agreed with them or not.
And what have they been replaced with? A dumbed down forum, laden with sad, bitter people.
Thanks for the (mostly) good six and a half years. Time for pastures new.
over and out
Another big moaning Jessie. There are plenty of good threads out there for anyone to post on. Good posters leave a variety of forums throughout time for numerous reasons, some non forum related. If these posters were any use they would have stuck about the improved what they perceive to be a lack of quality. Perhaps recent times on here have reflected the flat season that many people have been dissapointed with. Things will pick up once the punters get a better deal. I hope the jumps provide that.
Another gargantuan post there, Stilvi. Right up there with the other two thousand or so you haven’t made.
And I didn’t even mention, prufrock, Jeremy, silvoir,…
People whose love and passion for horseracing always came across in spades, regardless of whether I agreed with them or not.
I do hope you’ll continue to knock the status quo and kick the received wisdom outta TRF CR
I can’t get as worked up as you about the majority of the dear departed: informative posts, well written, but ultimately ego-driven rather sour and negative debate if one dared questioned their opinion
Cracking craic though and ‘here and now’ there does seem to be something of an intellectual vacuum immanent, which perhaps is the result of the owners’ decision to regress to the norm rather than promote egress to the above average
If I knew what you were on about Drone, am sure I’d agree with you.
Value Is EverythingIt is sad that the people Cav has mentioned have moved on. I do feel there are fewer people who know what they’re on about these days. Sorry if I’ve contributed to any of them moving away.
Value Is EverythingI suspect that it is the
reasonable
nature of my remarks that really annoys die-hard loyalists.
Yeah that’ll be it…your last few posts have included:
– Telling us that the Flat season is "8 weeks long"
For the purposes of halfway confident betting, it is that and maybe a bit more. The rest is a bit of a raffle.
– Slagging off Tom Segal on the grounds that you picked the Wokingham winner and he didn’t
I didn’t slag him off, I said he was overrated. He is. When I get the time I will go back over some big races ‘the world’s best tipster’ has got wrong and I got right. If I get them right and he gets them wrong, he can’t really be the world’s best tipster.
– Insisting that betting on "14, 34, 36, 11 and a few alley bets" made roulette more profitable than racing
I said that for me, playing the those numbers and a few alley bets were for a period more profitable than playing the horses. The numbers are 36/1. Again, it was a perfectly reasonable OBSERVATION.
Think about it.– ‘Proving’ that Jumps racing is a superior betting medium to the Flat based on the result of one race
No I wasn’t saying that. I was saying that I can and have bet every afternoon on an average Flat week and I can’t find a winner nor hardle anything I fancy. Yet during the winter I start having these nice little touches. FOR ME, finding value winners on the jumps is like to doing a crossword. Doing the same on the Flat is also like doing a crossword – with the clues in Chinese.
– Saying "Good old Franny, I say. I bet he could ride well after a few" regarding Franny Norton drinking before race-riding
I bet he could. It’s a tribute to the man. I bet you that going back through racing history, some big old races have been won by jockeys pi ssed off their faces. Think of a certain wayward and charismatic rider of today who shall remain nameless: do you seriously think every ride he’s had has been a perfectly sober one? Don’t be silly.
Yes, it’s the sheer
reasonable
nature of all your posts that annoys people.
Mike
Yes. I think so.
I’m sending Drone’s message to Pseuds’ Corner in Private Eye!
Can I add that I am an enthusiast in my way but I need a few winners to keep me interested. I will admit that recently I have arrogantly got in the habit of backing to win and then finding my horse finishing second. I mean, it has become a serious problem in the past month and cost me a bit.
When things are going reasonably well – I don’t mean a hot streak, but some decent – i find it incredibly absorbing and my capacity for study grows. The reverse happens with too many losers, and too many losers are often the result of poor product with opaque form.
I notice that none other than Andrew Beyer says winners are essential to maintain interest and energy.
I notice that none other than Andrew Beyer says winners are essential to maintain interest and energy.
Yes, but he doesn’t blame the racing if he doesn’t win.
Value Is EverythingI notice that none other than Andrew Beyer says winners are essential to maintain interest and energy.
Yes, but he doesn’t blame the racing if he doesn’t win.
Know him well, do you?
Betlarge, that opening post is a sad cameo of everything this once great racing forum has become over the last 18 months.
When you consider we once had posters of the calibre of carvillshill, maxilon, apracing, davidjohnston, seanboyce, reethard, imperialcall, Pinza, TDK, the now rarely spotted Drone and Glenn, etc,etc,etc….
Hardly worth the effort anymore.
How tedious are posts like this from people who think they own the forum.
What a shame The Professor has seemingly upset the clique that plagues this forum.
Judging by the ‘likes’ your post has attracted it is a view shared by a few others on the board.
I must admit every time I read a post like CV’s I cant help but think that I’m probably one of those who is seen as ‘dumbing down’ the forum. I don’t study form, don’t care a jot for ratings and probably all too often shoot off my all too big mouth before my all too small brain is properly loaded.
However I do think the sentiment expressed is entirely indicative of the kind of ‘old boys’ attitude that is slowly seeing the sport of racing disappearing up its followers collective backsides.
… and that’s probably the place they’re most likely to be best placed to view it from.
) but I have to slightly defend him. 
I’m not necessarily saying PT is an ignorant prawn, but you get my drift. You should be more tolerant.
‘Carv’ ran a solid tipping thread but sold out to Betfair!! 
As did ‘Imperial’ but he went through a lean patch and lost interest. ‘AP’ was Ginges hero and got fed up of him ‘Brown-nosing’! 
Davidjohnson the Timeform Guru still looks in but he’s got ‘Ginger’ preaching the Halifax way to those who listen,’SeanBoyce’ is Greyer than Philip Schofields hair..enough said there.’Reethard’ bless him tried! (Always had a soft spot for him though eh Reet?),’Pinza’, legendary user of the English Language and ‘Corms’ Whipping boy was a great contributor,’Max5′ was King of the Sand Pit and could actually sell the stuff to the Arabs and ‘TDK’ was a good source for an early price. I’d agree they all deserve a place in the TRF Hall of fame! In a couple of years the same will be said for the likes of ‘Eclipse first’, ‘Jonibake’, ‘Steve Caution’,’Hurdy’ and the one with ‘Ginger hair’, as the ‘Angelic Upstarts’ like myself would say….’The times are a changin there changin me’!!
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