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Finsceal Beo ran the 1m of the Irish 1,000 Guineas in a time 3.2 sec slower than Cockney Rebel ran the course and distance the day before.
Ignore the fact that ALL times on Sunday were slower than the day before, that the times in Ireland can be desperately unreliable and need to be checked manually and that winning time is in any case not always a good indication of a horse’s ability: surely this suggests that Finsceal Beo is rubbish and would struggle to pick up a 0-80 on the back of this.
Or have I missed something?
(Edited by Sir Nicholas Mordin at 7:42 pm on May 27, 2007)
(Edited by Prufrock at 7:43 pm on May 27, 2007)
100 horse in second<br>94 horse in 3rd<br>104 horse in 4th non stayer?<br>98 horse in fifth<br>Treat ???<br>100 horse in 7th
:o performance
(Edited by empty wallet at 7:59 pm on May 27, 2007)
Treat was beaten 5¼ lengths at NMK and 5½ lengths at CUR. Form looks solid enough to me.
the times in Ireland can be desperately unreliable
Really? I reckon they’re pretty good (at the major tracks, anyway) – http://www.irish-racing.com now even carry times for all finishers so you don’t have to rely on the beaten distances.
Quote: from Prufrock on 11:18 pm on May 28, 2007[br]Lame attempt at satire: sorry. <br>
<br>I gave it 7/10 " could do better" :biggrin:
(Edited by empty wallet at 12:25 am on May 29, 2007)
Gareth, the times at The Curragh or Leopardstown are timed to hundredths of a second and are announced on course in this format. Beware, however, because the second decimal gets chopped off when the time is published on irish-racing.com and elsewhere, and without any rounding being applied.
For example, if a sprinter runs 59.11 seconds the time will be published as 59.1 seconds. No problem there, but if it had run 59.19 seconds that time also would be published as 59.1.
Is the time adjusted to reflect a clear run versus a late one waiting for a gap to open? If a horse is boxed in surely the time will reflect the pace of the slower horses who box in the winner?
This is time dilation bit in Einsteins special theory of relativity. We all know time goes slower in Ireland so a length there is appropriately a tardy 0.2s whereas in the hustle and bustle of Hong Kong the HKJC determine a length to be a slicker 0.15s. So we have Shroedingers wave/particle duality, Einsteins mass/energy equivalence and horseracing’s length/time mince.
Monkey – check out the following link:
http://www.irish-racing.com/v4result084200705271500.htm
The finishing time for each individual runner is recorded and displayed after the owner.
Quote: from Prufrock on 11:18 pm on May 28, 2007[br]Lame attempt at satire: sorry.
I got the satire – I was responding to EW who was crabbing the form I thought.
Quote: from davidbrady on 11:49 am on May 29, 2007[br]
Quote: from Prufrock on 11:18 pm on May 28, 2007[br]Lame attempt at satire: sorry.
I got the satire – I was responding to EW who was crabbing the form I thought.
<br>David, i don’t need to crab the form, the RP handicappers do it for me
112 Irish<br>115 French<br>121 English
<br> the lesser performances should really be expected due to the close proximity of each run,.
Also the different competition, the different field sizes, different course configuration, the different going, which then effects the way each race was run
Wonder if Mordin will say she "bounced" again
(Edited by empty wallet at 12:25 pm on May 29, 2007)
I thought it was good too Pru .. even Sir Nick can talk utter balderdash sometimes.<br>:cheesy:
For what its worth here are Timeform ratings
<br>Finsceal Beo Irish 111<br> French 117<br> Newmkt 123+
Cockney Rebel Irish 119+<br> Newmkt 125
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