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Ah he’s been banned? Good stuff.
Onthesteal, I have no idea what’s going on at Godolphin. Over-training, too many horses in the yard, poor attitudes? It’s weird, everything changed in 2003. Beforehand they were phenomenal, but now look. All their Guineas winners were wintering in Dubai and there was no issue, but something’s obviously gone wrong somewhere. I think a sure sign of desperation was buying Parthenon and then running him in the French Derby only for him to finish 14th.
If you disagree, fine, but just look at Bin Suroor’s record in the past 5 years. Dire.
Maybe godolphin need to employ a proven bloodstock agent for their future purchases someone who has experience and has a proven track record and whos past purchases has been a resounding sucess. Maybe Shiekh Mohammed should employ Anthony Bromley to spot their future purcahses after all what does he have to lose.
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What I do think has been to their detriment is that they have refused to use Coolmore Stallions.
At least
usually
they’ve refused. Today I noticed that Sheikh Mohammed’s Claremont, the nice winner of the Prix du Lys (Group 3 at Chantilly), was bred at Darley out of Godolphin’s admirable filly Mezzo Soprano – but by no less a sire than Sadlers Wells!
Is this a new initiative, or have there been occasional Coolmore contracts?
I think a sure sign of desperation was buying Parthenon and then running him in the French Derby only for him to finish 14th.
Just a minor point but they didn’t buy Parthenon, he was ‘promoted’ from the Darley ranks (on paper originally owned by Sheikh Mohammed’s son) to join Godolphin.
As for Claremont, that can’t be a new initiative as he’s a three-year-old!
What I do think has been to their detriment is that they have refused to use Coolmore Stallions.
At least
usually
they’ve refused. Today I noticed that Sheikh Mohammed’s Claremont, the nice winner of the Prix du Lys (Group 3 at Chantilly), was bred at Darley out of Godolphin’s admirable filly Mezzo Soprano – but by no less a sire than Sadlers Wells!
Is this a new initiative, or have there been occasional Coolmore contracts?
She was bred to him before Sheikh Mohammed announced the boycott. With the purchase of the Stonerside farm in the US last year, Darley will be listed as the breeders of a number of foals by Coolmore stallions, but it of course wasn’t by choice.
Way to prove me wrong…
Have been saying for 4 years, Godolphin are utterly useless. Something obviously happened in 2003 or 2004 to them because it all went wrong there. Wouldn’t surprise me to find out that they’re the reason behind the credit crunch.
Flying Cloud is set for a spell on the sidelines after suffering a setback when winning the Ribblesdale Stakes at Royal Ascot.
The Storming Home filly was found to be lame following her four-length romp in the Group Two on her first start for Godolphin.
"She has had a setback. We will give her time and it will be a little while before we decide what to do with her next," said trainer Saeed bun Suroor.
Winner of her only two previous starts when trained in France by Andre Fabre, Flying Cloud had been talked off as a possible opponent for Epsom Oaks heroine Sariska in the Irish equivalent next month.
It appears those plans have now been scrapped, and she may not reappear until the autumn, with the Prix Vermeille at Longchamp a possible objective.
Don’t really think there is too much wrong with the breeding side of the Godolphin operation. They did refuse to use Coolmore but have bought Galileo stock etc. since. Visited one of Sheikh Mo’s studs, very interesting. Was surprised to hear they did
not
try and iron out problems with mares; by sending them to sires with good conformation. It’s whoever the boss wants.
When you look at Coolmore, they don’t seem to have the injuries Godolphin do. When looking at a Bin Surror horse, they often seem to run up light; sometimes looking tucked up. Their coats are great, but you’d expect that coming from Dubai.
Why the apparent down turn of Godolphin? The only thing I can think of is staff. In the early years when Noseda and / or Albatrani were there, their record (I believe) was far better than it is today. Have heard Sheikh Mo does like to be more hands on than most owners, but he probably knows more about racing than most.
I do like all the people at Godolphin though, including Sheikh Mo and Bin Surror. They are very loyal and much more open about their operation than Coolmoore. Simon Chrisford always gives a truthful opinion and there is no talking up their horses. If there’s a speed / temperament doubt they say so. Not hiding behind "Listen, this horse shows so much speed at home". Or "listen, this horse has a big ego".
Value Is EverythingI disagree about lamenes in Coolmore horses. Look around national hunt races and some lower grade races, their are loads of ex ballydoyle horses about who were lame,backward, plain slow who never ran in coolmore colours but were once owned by them. Look at the sales you will see ex ballydoyle horses in the horses in training sales who great breeding have obvoulsy not made the grade. Alos look at those who win a monir stake and end up in the US or Dubai..
As for Godolophin, heads need too role, some thing is very wrong in that yard…
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