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    zilzal
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    I found Fallon’s ride on Yeats somewhat unsatifacory. The ATR commentators were quick to say that Fallon had to go to the front early to make it  a stamina test! I was disappointed too that Boycie had nothing to say post-race on the 2/7’s defeat ! It’s currently the race of the day video on the ATR website.  Any views or excuses?

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    #77261
    The Market Man
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    I expected Yeats to win but he looked surprisingly one paced. The only possible danger I could see was the eventual winner.

    I don’t really think Fallon did anything wrong to be honest, sometimes you just get beaten by the better horse on the day.

    #77262
    zilzal
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    "Maybe I fell between two stools in as much as I should have gone on sooner or waited longer."

    Fallon quote after race.

    Not like Fallon to be indecisive, MM ! It might turn out to have been a very good prep race for Melbourne! Maybe they didn’t want give him too hard a race.<br>

    #77263
    Aidan
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    Thought he was just beaten by a better horse on the day over that trip. Over two miles they could have held on to him longer but they didnt have a choice today. Sounds like they are aiming the winner at the Canadian International.

    #77264
    The Market Man
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    I think any time a 2/7 shot gets beaten you tend to look for a reason. In theory it shouldn’t happen so its easy to say what if I did this or what if I did that.

    I don’t know I don’t pretend to be an expert on riding racehorses. I watched the race and when you watch a race to tend to analyse how its going don’t you? At least I do, I never at any stage thought that Fallon was doing anything particularly wrong.

    Hey who am I to to question the best jockey around lol?

    If I’d backed Yeats I wouldn’t have been blaming the jockey for the defeat thats all I know.

    #77265
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    Imo, he was simply done for toe over a distance short of his best. <br>On today’s evidence there would be little point in sending him to Melbourne, it may be 2 miles, but a very sharp and fast 2m.<br> Maybe the Cadran if he gets his ground?

    (Edited by reet hard at 10:09 pm on Sep. 16, 2006)

    #77266
    The Market Man
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    Quote: from EC on 11:13 pm on Sep. 16, 2006[br]Market Man

    When the policeman comes round to ask you if you were happy with the ride Fallon gave..will you stick to that view though?…he’ll be round in the morning;)

    (Edited by EC at 11:14 pm on Sep. 16, 2006)<br>

    Lol. He can come round he’ll have a helluva job to drag me out of bed though on a Sunday morning. :ohno:  ;)

    #77267
    bluechariot
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    Iit was obvious about 3f out that kinane was waiting to pounce.

    (Edited by bluechariot at 11:47 pm on Sep. 16, 2006)<br>

    (Edited by bluechariot at 7:50 am on Sep. 17, 2006)

    #77268
    guskennedy
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    There was nothing wrong with Fallon’s ride. Yeats was never really travelling and there’s nothing more to say.

    #77269
    jackane24
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    Many of my thoughts have been echoed on here. it looked to me at Goodwood that 2 miles was his minimum trip, and always felt 2/7 was a ridiculous price.

    The Melbourne Cup would still be my main target if I was Magnier though. But as was said, it is a fast 2 miles – Fallon would really need to make it a stamina test. he’d need to be at the front about 4 furlongs out, and be pushing on to get a big lead to fight off the fast finishers.

    Nothing wrong with Fallon’s ride btw.

    #77270
    Aidan
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    The Melbourne Cup is always a stamina test, simply because they go so fast. They walked early on yesterday.

    #77271
    Anonymous
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    Quote: from Aidan on 10:26 am on Sep. 17, 2006[br]The Melbourne Cup is always a stamina test, simply because they go so fast. They walked early on yesterday.<br>

    Aidan<br> Not so much a stamina test that genuine 12/14f horses such as Vinnie Roe, Vintage Crop, and Media Puzzle, haven’t  outperfomed  proper ‘Cup’ horses in recent years.

    #77272
    Grimes
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    I suspect that, as well as being better on the day, Kastoria is a very good horse, himself. Yeats has had a busier season; this was Kastoria’s dedicated first Group 1 target.

    #77273
    zilzal
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    After the slow early pace Fallon IMHO accelerated too sharply three or four furlongs out so Yeats folded near the finish when challenged. Surely an even pace is what a stayer wants. I wouldn’t hold this defeat against him.

    #77274
    Lingfield
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    Quote: from reet hard on 10:04 pm on Sep. 16, 2006[br] Imo, he was simply done for toe over a distance short of his best. <br>On today’s evidence there would be little point in sending him to Melbourne, it may be 2 miles, but a very sharp and fast 2m.<br> Maybe the Cadran if he gets his ground?

    (Edited by reet hard at 10:09 pm on Sep. 16, 2006)<br>

    <br>According to the Victorian authorities, connections have told them that Yeats is a NR there as they reckon he is OTT for the season

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