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There’s political bias here.
Switzerland were the only country to date, to never break the Code.
They had a good banking set up until laws were made to infiltrate it.It was a beautiful country in ’73 when I, gamble & co. infiltrated it’s borders. I was largely lying down, but I do have a clear memory of it’s large peaks.
If only the then thirteen year teenager Blob had entered his ‘ Kemptown by floodlight ‘ in 74, ABBA, good as they were, would have met their Waterloo, and would consequentially not have had the guts to record The Winner takes it all. They would have met their Fernando.
AHHH HAAA
He was the ultimate dancing queen – Diane Avis ! He loved the fractions over decimalised odds
Sgt Pepper versus Chiquitita
difficult innit !
Let us let the infamous Johnny Rotten of pretty vacant Country Life butter fame, not forgetting Never mind the Bollocks, toss a penny on this..
He’s taken a slash and run off with the coin !
He’ll never get knighted !“Success for Scotland at last.
It was won by a man wearing a dress !”If it was anyone but you gamble, anyone but you
I took the risk of upset purely for the sake of a laff – and do remember bigG I have Scottish lineage 30 % only, well, not pure and total, and certainly less than you – but it is blood, I and can easily laff 30% at myself.
I originate from the murderous Campbell clan and I am most hated by Stuarts!
LONG LIVE SPLASH
hated by admin
but loved by the widows
of those who scrolled it.As for the British entry hmmm, well..
When I get home of an evening I want slippers, a cup o’ tea and a fish, could be a kipper, with a friendly salad.
What I don’t want is to come home and walk in to a toilet shower scenario with dancing men wearing jock straps with bendy bodies attached. The white tiling reminded me of the funny farm and that’s a long time ago and possibly best forgotten.
White tiles scare me rigid.
Eurovision is not an annual ‘does Europe hate Britain?’ opinion poll. People in this country vastly overestimate the extent to which your average European cares about us one way or the other. Did everyone simultaneously stop hating us when Sam Ryder was second?
We don’t even know the numbers, you could get 24 points by impressing a couple of thousand people in Luxembourg and Malta whereas 10,000 votes in a highly populated country like Germany might not even get you on the scoreboard. I don’t know if they release numbers but you could get zero public vote points despite not receiving the fewest total votes, depends how they’re spread.
Ginger Israel did win the bloody semi final
Had Switzerland at 9’s….😭😭Charles Darwin to conquer the World
Do you not find it very strange that in a competition that is supposedly extremely open / anyone can win… The vast majority of members of Eurovision juries came to almost exactly the same conclusion as to what the best song was – Switzerland… Which was a completely different conclusion to the general public.
It was almost as if the Eurovision juries voted Croatia and Israel down because they knew they were popular with the general public… And / or wanted to make sure the political furore did not happen if Israel won by heavily voting for one song in the jury vote with very few juries giving Israel many points.
Whereas a significant minority of the public wanted to show support for Israel (nothing to do with the song)… And – as we knew from before the programme started – Croatia’s song was the most popular without political votes counting.
Value Is EverythingIsrael were always going to score quite high on the public vote.
Even if the vast majority were Anti Israel they split their vote between the other 25 songs
whereas anyone pro Israel were only ever going to be voting one wayCharles Darwin to conquer the World
If the juries knew Croatia was a popular choice amongst the public and wanted to hobble Israel’s chances surely they’d have voted Croatia. A song popular amongst both would be all but unbeatable.
I took a screenshot of the odds shortly before it started last night and Switzerland were 5/1 third favourites, fourth fav was 20/1. Seems the bookies had worked out by that point that they were amongst the most likely winners.
In the end Israel’s position probably reflects society, they have a reasonable level of support but far from overwhelmingly so, Croatia just nicked the public vote (on points awarded).
“It was almost as if the Eurovision juries voted Croatia and Israel down because they knew they were popular with the general public”.
A detailed breakdown of the voting is here:
https://eurovision.tv/event/malmo-2024/grand-final/results
It seems each national jury consisted of 5 people. They had to rank the songs in order of preference from 1 to 25.
In five juries, four of the jurors rated Israel’s song as 22nd or worse: Albania, Finland, Iceland, Italy and Portugal.
A further six juries saw three jurors rate the song 22nd or worse: Armenia, Australia, Ireland, San Marino, Serbia and Spain. In the latter three, all the three jurors in question rated the song the worst.
I am going to go out on a limb here and suggest that is simply not credible. Maybe Israel’s song was not the best but it was not one of the worst. Perhaps one or even two jurors might score it badly – but three or four, all objectively and independently reaching that conclusion? A likely story!
Anyone could be forgiven for thinking some juries were biased for non music reasons or leaned on to make sure Israel did not receive many jury votes, making it impossible for Israel to win once the public votes were added.
Perish the thought!
Thanks for posting the link, Cork.
I only had a random look at two countries: Spain and the Netherlands.
Spanish televoters gave 12 points to Israel, their jurors had them ranked 3rd – 21st – 25th – 25th – 25th
Dutch televoters also gave 12 points to Israel, despite the disqualification of their own participant, their jurors had them ranked 18th.Some strange opinions among the jurors, especially the Spanish ones: “Yeah, let’s rank them 25th…..”
Still not clear to me why the juries would rally around the country that finished fourth in its semi when it was known that Croatia was popular if the sole objective was ‘stop Israel winning’.
Anyone notice the Canada and Liechtenstein flags near the end by the way? I thought flags of non-competing countries weren’t allowed. Or did they mean ‘no Palestine flags’ but didn’t want to say so?
CAS, the juries are full of people who work in the arts. I’m generalising of course, but such people tend to be left-leaning, which nowadays correlates strongly with being anti-Israel. Therefore I don’t think there needs to have been any kind of grand plot for the poor jury performance of Israel; it was always likely in the current climate.
The contest is always affected by politics, but it’s far from the only factor. I continue to believe this year’s winner won on merit.
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Bobby G of the Fizz
at a private party
a long time ago – a good
ten years after Cheryl Baker
removed her skirt.
Problem was it was awkward.
He was quiet like a mouse,
and I couldn’t make my
mind up what to say to him.
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