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August 7, 2013 at 20:44 #24543
Anyone looking at this yet? I found a fiver in the street the other week so I’ve been having a few of my tiny ew’s. Thus far have had Silver Lime, No Heretic, Homeric, Noble Silk [ran badly today but I think/hope it’s a cunning plan], Suraj and Al Saham. I’ve still got some more pennies left for more bets! Must admit that I haven’t realy had time to look at the race properly; will get properly stuck in when I do!
August 8, 2013 at 03:16 #447820I like Sheikhzayedroad, I missed the 16-1 last week but am on at 12-1. He ran well enough at Ascot and Goodwood and should have no trouble getting the extra 2 furlongs. Bit worried about being held up in such a big field but he should run well.
August 8, 2013 at 17:39 #447859Mubaraza and Suraj at the moment. Both have a big race in them and the pace and long finishing straight of this should be ideal.
Suraj was hit with an 11lb hike last year and taken time to improve to be well handicapped. Mubaraza is a bit frustrating but i think Hanagan’s been poor on him a few times.August 8, 2013 at 19:09 #447867Suraj did catch my eye the other week when he ran and I backed him as soon as I could get a price. It’s often my first choice that does well in these sort of races [before I go on and back half the field, that is. Last year was a bit of a stats buster, though, with higher weights doing well.
August 8, 2013 at 19:25 #447868Sir Mark Prescott’s Pallasator has the profile of one of his legendary coup horses. Won 3 from 3 last season improving his rating by over a stone. Not seen since the end of September last year when beating Nicholascopernicus over 1m 6f on heavy ground, the long gap is obviously a concern but might not stop him if he’s been laid out for this race. Said to have idled in front and always doing enough in his last win, he surely has scope to have improved after only four starts and the 12/1 he is now might be a big looking price if there is a plot afoot.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
August 9, 2013 at 00:35 #447878Not the sort of race to make your seasonal debut.
August 9, 2013 at 11:20 #447897No. The ‘needed a run within the past 55 [?] days’ stat still stands.
August 9, 2013 at 13:34 #447906Not the sort of race to make your seasonal debut.
No, but that is where you get the better odds IF there is to be a gamble. I am not saying there will be, but the stable has been in good form and it can’t be denied that the horse is open to potential improvement. When the entries were declared he was a 25/1 shot and it is interesting that he is as low as 9/1 favourite with William Hill, so I am assuming some people with information might have been at work. I’ve seen how short some of these big race fancies can go off on the day and if Sir Mark Prescott isn’t an old fox then my name is Basil Brush
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
August 10, 2013 at 10:06 #448014Very soft ride on Tropical Beat yesterday on debut for David O’ Meara from John Gosden. Stayed on for pressure on first run for 330 days, and will come on for the run. Will definitely get in from 97.
25/1 across. Aye aye.
August 10, 2013 at 12:41 #448030Didn’t really want a 4lb penalty for Homeric…
August 14, 2013 at 07:54 #448328Didn’t really want a 4lb penalty for Homeric…
Taken him out of our betting, he’s running in a different handicap now.
August 14, 2013 at 10:39 #448341Oh RATS!The perils of ante post betting. Still, at least I realised how good he was [should have backed him the other day, though!].
August 14, 2013 at 16:54 #448361Prescott doesn’t really win these big races anymore so will opt for something like Stoute’s Opinion or Haggas’s Stencive or Guarantee. Caravan Rolls On has a big prize in him too.
August 14, 2013 at 22:50 #448402Prescott doesn’t really win these big races anymore so will opt for something like Stoute’s Opinion or Haggas’s Stencive or Guarantee. Caravan Rolls On has a big prize in him too.
I’m with you Rich on Opinion’s chances. I know it’s not really an inspired pick, him being favourite, but I think he must have a terrific chance.
He won well at Ascot over 12f, and looked like he was in need of a bit further. He then ran a promising race in the Old Newton Cup, (finished 6th) where even if he hadn’t won, he would undoubtedly have finished a lot closer had he not had his run stopped, and after having to switch he ran on well again. It might be a blessing for this race that he didn’t win as he would be running with a penalty.
I kind of swithered when he was 12-1 in case he was switched to another race, but with no sign of him being entered elsewhere I took the 10s. He’s now best priced 8s, but I can see him being the kind of gamble that ends up 7-2, so even at 8s I think that’s a fair punt.
If I was looking for something a bit more speculative, again I agree with you Rich that Willie Haggas could provide the answer, but of his entries I would side with Harris Tweed who at 16-1 has to be a very solid e/w chance. His last run where he won over 14f at Goodwood was quite impressive, winning by a good margin and looking like there was a lot more in the tank. He’s got a 4lb penalty for that, but he won with a lot in hand so I don’t think the 4lb is unreasonable and shouldn’t stop him.
I’m a jumps man at heart, but I do like these quality longer flat races (and the occasional sprint cavalry charge)and the Ebor fits the bill.
August 15, 2013 at 06:10 #448407Same here about the jumps, but the Ebor is actually mt favourite race of the flat season [although it’s probably because I’ve been so lucky with it in the past and also it’s one of the few flat race meetings that I’ve ever been to].
August 15, 2013 at 14:13 #448443Think this race has lost quite a bit since being moved to a Saturday.
It used to be quite special on a Wednesday but is just another race on the conveyor belt of decent races on a Saturday with little time for a preview or analysis after it.August 15, 2013 at 14:39 #448448We used to go when it was on the Wednesday. But not now.
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