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    Avatar photoMDeering
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    On-course they sensed he would need the run.

    Two furlongs from home he appeared to have been touched up already, but I kept thinking … will he fight back on merit and class?

    Sure enough, he did. Solid showing.

    Hong Kong Vase, Breeders’ Cup Turf? He’s not in the Champion Stakes entries which surprises me.

    #183221
    % MAN
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    A cracking race and it broke the course record by almost half a second -having said that there is one hell of a tail wind – a very impressive race though

    #183226
    Salselon
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    Great race, and all credit to De Kock, once again.

    I think all times either need a large adjustment (how accurately is it to factor in the tailwind?) or need to be disregarded.

    #183283
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    Myles, he was originally entered for the Champion Stakes but was taken out at this week’s forfeit stage because same connections have Archipenko for that race.

    Eagle Mountain’s ultimate aim is Hong Kong but he could go for either the Darley Stakes (Gr.3) over 9 furlongs at Newmarket (to take on Bankable again) or the Breeders’ Cup Turf. He is also in the Gran Premio di Milano over 12 furlongs.

    Ideally he’d need another run before Breeders’ Cup but if that race doesn’t look too strong it would be a good option.

    #183288
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    Myles, he was originally entered for the Champion Stakes but was taken out at this week’s forfeit stage because same connections have Archipenko for that race.

    Eagle Mountain’s ultimate aim is Hong Kong but he could go for either the Darley Stakes (Gr.3) over 9 furlongs at Newmarket (to take on Bankable again) or the Breeders’ Cup Turf. He is also in the Gran Premio di Milano over 12 furlongs.

    Ideally he’d need another run before Breeders’ Cup but if that race doesn’t look too strong it would be a good option.

    Kevin Oshea, the jockey, in a Channel 4 interview was of the opinion that he should miss the Breeders’ cup and go to Hong Kong instead. The BC can be a bit of an obsession when a horse like that could do well in Hong Kong and Dubai and even the Japan cup (yes I know it is a mile and a half but might he get the trip on the right track?).

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    This is strange. Can someone better informed than myself tell me why Magnier, Tabor and Smith are letting this class of horse go? Archipenko didn’t exactly pull up any trees when with AOB but has emeged as a top class miler and now Eagle Mountain looks set to have similar turn in fortunes. Could it be that…

    A. AOB and connections are simply underestimating their stock?
    B. De Kock knows something about bringing on horses AOB doesn’t?
    C. The owners are simply getting offers they can’t refuse?
    D. They couldn’t give a flying fook?

    I ask this because i can’t believe that had Ballydoyle envisaged such improvement in Archipenko, they surely wouldn’t have sold him. De Kock imediatly campaigned the horse over a mile as opposed to 10f+ and the rest is history. The same could almost be said about Eagle Mountain although there’s still a bit of a way to go before you could consider it being a ‘mistake’ of Archipenko proportions.

    Can someone shed any light ? :?

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    How about – Coolmore are spreading the love? :wink:

    Tough character about Eagle Mountain IMO – a "bulldog" needs to be the profile for a horse in the Hong Kong Vase or Hong Kong Cup. Take Ouija Board, Collier Hill and Doctor Dino as examples.

    #183312
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    I think what’s happening at Coolmore is that if a horse doesn’t really show its potential as a 3yo then it becomes a bit of a forgotten horse. Coolmore can’t really afford to take a risk that the horse proves to be a superstar as an older horse because they have a new batch of 3yo for that season and can’t afford to waste time and money on 4yo "maybes"

    You’re always going to miss the odd on with that approach and it has been amplified this season with the 2 horses you mention happening in the same season. Howveer, on the whole, you would have to say that Coolmore have the risk vs reward balance pretty much spot on whne it comes to separating the chaff from the wheat.

    #183340
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    Bob a decision about the Breeders Cup will be made in the next few days. He can easily compete in Breeders’ Cup and Hong Kong – 7 weeks between them. In fact as he just coming to hand now he will need one or two runs before Hong Kong. It will mainly depend on the outcome of the Arc and which European horses look likely to run in the Turf as opposed to the Classic.

    I don’t think Japan is on his agenda although he may be nominated.

    He will go to Dubai after Hong Kong.

    As for Coolmore they can only stand so many stallions and they are always prepared to sell their horses for the right price.

    They kept Duke, Septimus etc so do like to keep a few potential stallions in training themselves.

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