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Bit of a damp squib of a race. I am not sure how fast Arod was going but Solow always looked like winning, albeit it was by less than looked likely at one stage. Gabrial in 3rd at 50/1 casts a bit of concern for me over the form and I don’t think Solow has needed to be at his best the last twice. It could be that he’s a horse who just keeps on winning and doesn’t set the visual fireworks off along the way.
Night Of Thunder was very disappointing, not for the first time. His strike rate is beginning to look a bit of a worry and it’s still a mystery that he managed to conjure that amazing run to collar Kingman in the 2000 Guineas, very much a race where the best horse didn’t win on the day, much to my chagrin as I had 9/1 to good money on Kingman.
Aidan was typically vague on where Gleneagles goes next. He could go over a mile in France or 10f elsewhere, or maybe neither, it will be up to the boys. He would not be drawn on a potential clash with Golden Horn but I can’t see them taking him on.
It sounds pretty much like Gleneagles will be steered to where the ground is fast and he faces opponents who don’t like fast ground.
Solow came to a course where it was far from ideal, the ground dried up and probably wasn’t ideal, the pace in the race may have been less than ideal, yet he got the job done and went home with the pot. At least it left the race with more credibility than improver Arod leading home a handicapper, with an errant Guineas winner well in arrears.
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No betting for me at all today but just wanted to say fantastic run again by Arod, my favourite horse of 2015.
The ground looked testing and the huge distances between horses backs that up. Gleneagles would not have run to his best on that ground but on rattling good ground he will take some beating and that includes golden horn.
I was kinda expecting Arod make a sudden dash for home early into the straight to see if he could take the sting out of Solow. It was a gallant effort nonetheless.
Solow is a fine horse though and I hope he and Gleneagles will clash at some point this season. We really do need it!
The ground looked testing and the huge distances between horses backs that up. Gleneagles would not have run to his best on that ground but on rattling good ground he will take some beating and that includes golden horn.
I didn’t notice any huge distances. Apart from the ridiculously long opening race, which is a distance rarely run over on the flat, the races were all pretty closely run affairs. In fact, the final race on the card was as competitive a heat as you could ever see with small distances between all the finishers, from 1st place right down to 15th place, half lengths, necks, heads, short heads, noses and even a dead heat in the mix. I wouldn’t have thought that possible on really testing ground.
Peter Chapple-Hyam said he would have preferred it faster for Arod and Freddie Head indicated that the gallop was slower than ideally suited Solow. Maybe they felt the best way to get the French horse beat was to make a slower pace and try to leave Solow trying to make up ground off an inadequate test of stamina.
Richard Hannon said they couldn’t use the ground as an excuse for Night Of Thunder and he’s become a horse with a bit to prove after what looked like a promising Lockinge win. If he were my horse I would be taking the view that if he can’t get near Solow on fast ground or, allegedly, testing ground, then it’s probably a good idea to tread a different path to the grey win machine.
I don’t think Gleneagles will take on Golden Horn. It’s unlikely he will be risked over further against a horse rated higher than him. At 10f Golden Horn will run the guts out of him fairly comfortable in my opinion. Gleneagles St James Palace win just doesn’t look anywhere near the calibre of horses the Derby winner has been putting away easily.
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Solow, a gallant winner and so totally straight forward. A great shame he was cut.
Don’t think it’s a shame at all, lots of horses don’t produce their best until gelded, as is the case here and maybe it was contributory to him being so straightforward.
Besides we get see them for longer, which can’t be such a bad thing and certainly preferable to them being shuffled off to stud as a 3 year old.
Richard Hannon said they couldn’t use the ground as an excuse for Night Of Thunder and he’s become a horse with a bit to prove after what looked like a promising Lockinge win. If he were my horse I would be taking the view that if he can’t get near Solow on fast ground or, allegedly, testing ground, then it’s probably a good idea to tread a different path to the grey win machine.
Hannon said back along that both NOT and Toormore would struggle to beat either Solow or Gleaneagles but were going for the race as the prize money was so high even for 5th place being a good pick up.
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Richard Hannon said they couldn’t use the ground as an excuse for Night Of Thunder and he’s become a horse with a bit to prove after what looked like a promising Lockinge win. If he were my horse I would be taking the view that if he can’t get near Solow on fast ground or, allegedly, testing ground, then it’s probably a good idea to tread a different path to the grey win machine.
Hannon said back along that both NOT and Toormore would struggle to beat either Solow or Gleaneagles but were going for the race as the prize money was so high even for 5th place being a good pick up.
Kind of sad he was 6th then Nathan
I find it a bit disappointing that a 2000 Guineas winner is running around chasing the crumbs and finishing behind a horse rated 107. I doubt that is what Godolphin had in mind when they bought the horse.
It is hardly as if the boys in blue need to send the Dyson out to hoover up a few shekels to keep the wolf from the door.
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I was kinda expecting Arod make a sudden dash for home early into the straight to see if he could take the sting out of Solow. It was a gallant effort nonetheless.
Solow is a fine horse though and I hope he and Gleneagles will clash at some point this season. We really do need it!
I heard a wee rumour of a match race proposed by the O’Brien team.
A £1,000,000, purse, a pure no-holds barred “Square Go” Gleneagles versus Solow.
The Distance will be one imperial mile.
The location?
The main runway at Heathrow on a hot summer’s day
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The C4 Racing team – Aiden walking the runway to see if the going is quick enough before deciding if Gleaneagles is to take his place.
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Richard Hannon said they couldn’t use the ground as an excuse for Night Of Thunder and he’s become a horse with a bit to prove after what looked like a promising Lockinge win. If he were my horse I would be taking the view that if he can’t get near Solow on fast ground or, allegedly, testing ground, then it’s probably a good idea to tread a different path to the grey win machine.
Hannon said back along that both NOT and Toormore would struggle to beat either Solow or Gleaneagles but were going for the race as the prize money was so high even for 5th place being a good pick up.
Kind of sad he was 6th then Nathan
I find it a bit disappointing that a 2000 Guineas winner is running around chasing the crumbs and finishing behind a horse rated 107. I doubt that is what Godolphin had in mind when they bought the horse.
It is hardly as if the boys in blue need to send the Dyson out to hoover up a few shekels to keep the wolf from the door.
It was 100k for 4th place. Should of had Toormore run instead. I predicted he would improve past NOT this season and he beat him at Ascot despite setting the race up for the finishers. His run in the Lennox was at an unsuitable trip and if he were to bump into Night of Thunder again on any ground he’d finish in-front for my money.
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Well I said I had doubts about whether Latharnach was really worthy of the hike in the ratings he received for finishing second to Gleneagles and he certainly did nothing for the form today in lesser, Gp3 company.
Latharnach never looked like winning and there were some very disappointing horses in that race today. Moheet and Aktabantay had some high hopes for them at the start of the season and look like a couple of old cuddies now.
Malabar may have been helped by the first time visor and she certainly did no harm to Star Of Seville’s form, having been ninth to her in the French Oaks. I feel Gosden’s filly may give a fright to Legatissimo in the Nassau at more than four times her odds.
Disappointing for Gleneagles fans I would say, with Latharnach beaten by a horse who could only finish 4th in a Chester listed contest the time before.
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It looks like there will be no duel between the two at Ascot either.
Bookmakers go Evens Solow for that race and 4/1 for Gleneagles in the QE II. Betting which strongly suggests the O’Brien colt is an unlikely runner.
The next stop for Gleneagles should either be a rematch with Territories, who is due to appear in the Marois on 16th August, or a step up in trip and facing Golden Horn in the Juddmonte on the 19th August. If the ground is suitable you would think France is the more likely destination.
It seems a good idea to take evens on Solow. I don’t think Gleneagles will be there and Solow will be odds-on come 19th October.
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Ground at Ascot in October will likely include the word soft in it, so buckleys chance of Gleneagles running. Also much of Solow’s form is on soft and even heavy ground, so he is very likely to be an even better horse come QE2 time.
I would also have to question whether Gleneagles will run again in Europe as Aiden apparently will only run him on genuinely fast ground, York the most likely to get that ground but with the clerks of the courses these days being very happy to water to avoid good to firm ground, the odds do not look good. Even if he did run, you would have to now question whether his form is good enough (only Territories & Dutch Connection winning at Group level since 2000g).
Expect to see Gleneagles in BC Mile as conditions will suit him to a T.
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