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What do you think of conspiracy theorists ?
They said "even the biblical elephant on the roof" knew it was going to Japan.
No bets as I fell asleep in the afternoon but I had an aye on Buena Vista not Victoire Pisa.I find myself in complete agreement with Nulty. Spencer was in the cat bird seat. From there you are supposed to go forward half a length coming around the bend and drive for home when you straighen up. When you pass the horse in front of you you go to the rail. But he lost his chance when he allowed himself to be swallowed up coming around the bend.He never did get to the rail.How did Cape Blanco win the Irish Champion Stakes? From the front! Maybe Heffernan should have ridden him this time also.By the way if you are getting the best available jockey on the day you wait until the day.
On watching it again this morning:
1. Go off at a decent but unspectacular pace to first bend;
2. Coming out of the bend, Fujita gives Transcend, out in front, an almighy pull, slowing the pace to a crawl;
3. Half way down back straight, Demuro takes Victoire Pisa
wide of the whole field
to pull up with Transcend, everybody sees this;
4. Fujita sees Victoire Pisa pull up alongside him and finally let’s his mount go, again dictating the pace of the race;
5. Coming out the final bend, the bunched field other than Transcend, Victoire Pisa, illustrate the slow pace of the race and that half a furlong after VP’s move, the rest of the field is still wondering what do!;
6. Victoire Pisa and Transcend have stolen enough of a march (2 – 5 lengths) on most of the field that one kick coming out of the turn sees them coming home 1st and second.
The Japanese horses had the run of the race in a field of quality horses. Spencer, and Queally in particular seemed clueless what to do, the pace of the race paralysed them. Queally saw Demuro make the move on Victoire Pisa right in front of him but continued to amble down the straight on Twice Over who doesn’t win races with a crazy turn of foot from the rear of the field.
I despair for Queally, I really do. Seems to make elementary mistakes and he’s incapable of dictating races or stamping his authority on the field when he’s on a class horse.
The conspiracy theories are bonkers, taking the initiative when others prevaricated won the Japs the race. Good luck to them. And finally, Victoire Pisa was a 4/1 shot, Dam’s sire and grand sire were DWC winners, and he’s done enough the last year to earn more respect in that field than 11/1 SP.
Have to agree – it wasnt Queally’s finest hour. But he is young and hopefully will learn. So glad that the race went to Japan but it really was a most unsatisfactory race. Very much doubt Henry will be back next year.
As for the conspiracy theories –
"this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"
Interesting comments from J McGrath in the Telegraph
For a second year, the Henry Cecil-trained Twice Over carried British hopes into the World Cup and, again, he experienced demoralising defeat. This time he finished ninth, in almost a replica of his 10th place the previous year, only on this occasion he didn’t receive a hefty bump.
Drawn wide, in stall 12, Tom Queally again found it impossible to slot into the main body of the field, two horses off the fence, and was forced to face the breeze all the way down the back straight.The $10 million World Cup is no leisurely stroll to the first gentle turn in a mile-and-a-half maiden at Lingfield Park. It is a desperate scramble for position, and once that spot is claimed no jockey is going to surrender it. There is too much at stake. The winning jockey’s cut of first prize is $600,000 (around £400,000) alone.
Frankly, Twice Over may have been rippling fit and ready to run his race, but rival riders were never going to let Queally in.
Winning jockey Mirco Demuro later revealed that the greatest stroke of luck in his triumph was that Victoire Pisa banged his head on the stalls as the gates opened and missed the break.
This meant they sat last at the first turn and avoided all the stop-start scrimmaging that took place near the inside, in which the American runner Fly Down was severely hampered.
The Italian’s daring dash from last around the outside of the entire field looked suicidal at the time, but proved one of the most enterprising and lucrative mid-race manoeuvres ever seen in a major international contest. In this age of formulaic tactical planning, the element of surprise was worth several lengths. His rivals could scarcely believe what they were seeing out the corner of their goggles.
Putting it bluntly, analysis of the result shows that if you were not drawn in a single figure stall, you had no chance.
Poet’s Voice (drawn 10) finished last, Richard’s Kid (11) 12th, Twice Over (12) ninth, Buena Vista (13) eighth, and Golden Sword (14) 11th.
The configuration of the track is such that good early positioning is paramount. The World Cup at Meydan is very different to the 14 runnings staged at Nad Al Sheba, which featured a very long home straight.About Twice Over I don’t know what to tell you.RVW took him apart in the Juddmont and Cape Blanco and New Approach in the Champion Stakes(both). There are only two Group One jockeys in my opinion riding in England. Murtagh and Moore. After that you must go to France. Look at Ballydoyle without Murtagh. They are casting an eye on Moore already.If they could steal Fallon away from Stouty they will try to do the same with Moore.
Well said, Jim McGrath.
I backed Victoire Pisa and was cursing the jockey when he made his move but, as ‘Hotspur’ quite rightly pointed out, it was ‘one of the most enterprising and lucrative mid-race manoeuvres ever seen in a major international contest.’
Twice Over would not have won, regardless, and that is the second successive year he has disappointed in the contest. I told a mate of mine, who had a few quid on Twice Over, that he has backed a horse running at Meydan, but drawn at Nad Al Sheba!
As I said in my previous post, the draw proved significant, with only the runner-up drawn high. The difference with Transcend (9) is that the jockey made it his main objective to get to the lead – out of trouble and dictating a slow pace.
Perhaps Queally could have made the same manoeuvre, but the same could be said for every jockey in the field – there’s only so much room and your choices were limited further if you drawn high.
As I mentioned in my previoous post, he wasn’r far behind Gio Ponti turning in, but rather than making up ground, the American horse increased his advantage.
Twice Over was severely disadvantaged by the draw, but found himself in a position to win the race. He simply wasn’t good enough on the day.
Good to see Demuro getting some well deserved credit on Pg5 of today’s RP. I thought it was a breathtaking manoeuvre. I do think the other jocks were caught napping, however Ramon Dominguez can hardly be blamed for Gio Ponti being lit up by the winner’s mid-race injection of pace.
Part of Jim McGrath’s article is sound, namely the Demuro plaudits. However I think it is incredibly simplistic to suggest none of the wide drawn horses had a hope of winning. Queally had ample opportunity to maintain his initial forward momentum and sit handy, but for reasons only he knows decided instead to take a big tug and drop his mount into inevitable traffic problems – almost identical to last years ride.
However the draw theory is erroneous as whatever the draw, the eventual winner was plum last going into turn 1, and was at a distinct disadvantage to all the wide drawn jockeys. Moreover the very slow pace meant all the jocks drawn wide had plenty of time to get themselves into a competitive postion. The only jockey who did such was Demuro. In today’s Post Queally is critical of the race saying it wasn’t a real horse race? This is an unfortunate response, and it would have been preferable had he given credit to a young jockey who completely outrode him.
In today’s Post Queally is critical of the race saying it wasn’t a real horse race? This is an unfortunate response, and it would have been preferable had he given credit to a young jockey who completely outrode him.
If Mr Queally thought it was not a real horse race, he had the horse beneath him to turn it into one. Maybe that was a petulant statement from Mr Queally, indicating that in terms of both jockeyship and personal behaviour he still has some growing up to do, which is a shame for a man of his age. He knows Twice Over well, he knows from last year’s Prince of Wales Stakes at Ascot how not to ride him, he knows Henry Cecil’s well-quoted views about all his horses being trained to run at the front if that is the best way to ride the race and that “the pace of the race was too slow” will not be an acceptable excuse. Maybe Twice Over was not good enough on the day, or was a little off colour, but from his post-race comments Mr Queally seemed to be saying that he was not ridden to maximize his chance of winning, but said in a very ungracious way.
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Japan are a major player on the world stage. Weren’t they responsible for the first two home in the Melbourne Cup back in 2006?
The trainer certainly is. Katsuhiko Sumii was responsible for both successes ( DWC/MC ). He is definitely one of the best handlers on the planet.
It’s not the first time that world class jockeys have made grave judgements of error re pace at a Dubai meeting. In 2006 Lemaire got away with murder in the Sheema on Heart’s Cry. Also, Rawiller on Elvestroem in the Duty Free (not 100% what year). Initiative can win you many races when you are on a world class galloper..
Trouble is I don’t believe that either Queally or Spencer are world class jockeys. But that is just my opinion. You may say that Cecil believes in Queally but what choice does he have?In my opinion only Murtagh and Moore are World Class on the English scene.That includes the present men riding for Ballydoyle.
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