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Using a 19th-century law, a British court has fined a man 150 pounds (US$215) after be admitted riding a horse while drunk.Can anyone think of any jockeys (no names please) who might have failed a breathalyser test prior to climbing aboard their mounts? Was it costly to your pocket?
Ken,
being the Armchair expert, i have on numerous occasions felt my mount
stumble from under me, due to drinking a whole bottle of "Montrachet"
to myself, but only when i am celebrating one of my famous Ante-post
coups! I have been known to take a pull when this occurs, it helps to settle
a temperamental filly!Can anyone think of any jockeys (no names please) who might have failed a breathalyser test prior to climbing aboard their mounts? Was it costly to your pocket?
If they fail a breath test they aren’t allowed to ‘climb aboard’. Joe Fanning was a recent example I believe.
Joe wasn’t the first of Mark Johnston’s jockeys to fail a test.
Can’t remember the name of the other lad, can anyone help?
Could it be an occupational hazard if you ride for Brave heart?
Colin
I may be wrong with the facts of Joe fanning, however I thought I read that he blew 30ugs at the course.
If that is the case I just hope he did not drive to the track because if he did and he had been stopped by the police and they had back calculated to when he started driving dependant on when that was I have no doubt he would have been over the legal drink drive limit and been prosecuted.
As I say I am not sure if it was 30ugs, however if it was bearing in mind it was daytime, I have no doubt he as a drink problem.
Joe wasn’t the first of Mark Johnston’s jockeys to fail a test.
Can’t remember the name of the other lad, can anyone help?
Could it be an occupational hazard if you ride for Brave heart?
Are you inferring working for him drives them to it?
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Didnt Seb Saunders get stood down in Sweden because he had drunk a couple of glasses of wine with lunch.
I believe so, yes. He wasn’t hammered or anything close to it, but I think the issue was that the parameters for what constitutes over the limit are set a little more meanly over there than here, and he was caught out by that. Maybe one of our Scandinavian experts such as Tony25 can give chapter and verse here.
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I had a friend who rode her horse to the pub for a few drinks with friends. She proceeded to get rather intoxicated and rode home in that state. She was stopped by the police because she was all over the road and could barely stay on the horse. They did actually charged her with being drunk in charge of a horse. This was about 6 years ago so it can still happen…
"Can’t remember the name of the other lad, can anyone help? "
I have been reminded that the lad I was thinking of was, Keith Dalgleish.
Thanks for that.
Colin
To be honest I think they should recieve very high bans for testing over the limit. They are not only endangering themselves and their fellow jocks, but also the lives and wellbeing of all the horses, stalls handlers and anyone else on the course or in the paddocks. Treat it like what it essentially is, a traffic offence!
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Joe wasn’t the first of Mark Johnston’s jockeys to fail a test.
Can’t remember the name of the other lad, can anyone help?
Could it be an occupational hazard if you ride for Brave heart?
Colin
Keith Dalgleish from hawick in the scottish borders.. good jockey who grew to tall and struggled with the weight, he still works for mark johnston as a work rider
I seem to remember Keith planning to go jumping after continued weight problems. Does any know what happened, was it just ‘not for him’?
If the law wanted to make an example out of prosecuting drunken riders they’d have a field day in Lambourn or Newmarket (or in most racing yards for that matter) on Saturday or Monday mornings in particular.
Racing horses comes to mind, as well as jumping obstacles on the way to the gallops….
I seem to remember Keith planning to go jumping after continued weight problems. Does any know what happened, was it just ‘not for him’?
I read somewhere that even jumping he still had to waste and as such he was just no longer prepared to go through all the carry on and packed it in altogether. Pity because Ally and Don Whillans and James Ewart among others would surely have put him up.
If I remember rightly wasn’t Steve Smith-Eccles suppose to be pissed when he rode Emsee-H in the 1993 Cathcart? He thought he’d finished for the day so had a few in one of the sponsor’s tents only to be called up when original pilot was injured. He gave them a 10-length start then unseated at the 1st. Think he may have recounted the story in his autobiography.
If I remember rightly wasn’t Steve Smith-Eccles suppose to be pissed when he rode Emsee-H in the 1993 Cathcart? He thought he’d finished for the day so had a few in one of the sponsor’s tents only to be called up when original pilot was injured. He gave them a 10-length start then unseated at the 1st. Think he may have recounted the story in his autobiography.
Anorak!
On a serious note though, Charlie Mann admitted recently that he was drunk when taking several rides in the Grand National. "With the horses I was riding, you’d have to be" I believe he said, and given the quality of some runners in the race in the ’80s, I wouldn’t blame him. I believe some of the great jockeys of the ’60s were drunk a frightening amount of the time, judged on what I’ve read in several autobiographies..
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