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    Avatar photoIanDavies
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    ….says man on £575,538 a year.

    “Ok, Andrew Bailey, we won’t, we’ll just watch inflation hit your predicted 7.25% level and suck it up as part of our civic duty to help fund Covid. The same civic duty the government showed when breaking their own rules to hold all those parties.”

    Said no one ever.

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    At the end of the day the “poor bloody infantry” are always the ones that suffer.

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    #1581379
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    Quite liked this gem from Sunak earlier too:

    ‘We have always been the party of sound money – we will always continue to be on my watch’

    How many billions on the useless Test and Trace? How many billions in covid loan fraud written off? How much spaffed to Tory chums for non existent or substandard PPE?

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    If you’re on 575k a year, inflation at 7.5% leaves you on 531k a year in real terms – you’ll just about cope!

    But for most people….

    To be fair to Rishi Sunak, being marginally more right wing than Genghis Khan, all the public spending will have killed him.

    He didn’t enter politics to do a Jeremy Corbyn impression.

    No, he’s in politics to become PM, and he’s on the cusp of sensing his chance to knife Boris Johnson.

    Johnson, Sunak, Dominic Cummings until recently, what lovely people of integrity were put into power in 2019.

    And what a talented Cabinet – entry requirements: pro-Brexit and Johnson cheerleader.

    Still, Labour under Corbyn would have been even worse apparently.

    How exactly?

    Corbyn would have to have eaten a baby for breakfast live on TV every day throughout the Pandemic to have been worse.

    And that’s from someone who doesn’t even much like the overgrown student protest merchant.

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    Jeremy isn’t even the worst Corbyn, and that’s saying something.

    Also I find it odd how all these advisors quitting have suddenly found a conscience. Mirza has been there 14 years and it’s only now he says something which she finds a bit over the top? Surely it’s nothing to do with the imminent sinking of the Johnson ship…

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    ….Agreed.

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    Possibly something to do with her close links to Sunak….

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    Jeremy isn’t even the worst Corbyn, and that’s saying something.

    And Corbyn certainly isn’t the worst Jeremy in politics!

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    Sunak is quickly improving his position in my table of people I dislike intensely.

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    Once again the Left are economical with the truth.

    “Don’t ask for a pay rise” is very different to what Andrew Bailey actually said and meant:

    As a general rule – “Don’t ask for a BIG pay rise” – (that’s a BIG difference to the OP) and there will of course be quite a few exceptions.
    Inflation is or is expected to be around 6 or 7%.
    Of course there will be those in financial trouble who need at least a 6 or 7% pay rise.

    There will also be people in jobs where workers are in demand such as lorry drivers who can ask for much more – whatever the going rate.

    But if as a general rule people don’t settle for anything under 10% then it’s obvious when BIG pay rises are passed onto the customer it’ll cause a wage / inflation spiral upwards. ie If EVERYONE has BIG pay rises then inflation rises yet again and those who were in trouble before their pay rise will (because of that wage / inflation spiral) once again be in financial trouble.

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    “If EVERYONE has BIG pay rises then inflation rises yet again”

    So what he actually meant was that big pay rises are only for rich people and not for the masses?

    Got it. 👍

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    No Glad’ if anything the opposite.

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    Am extremely sympathetic to those on low wages that are in financial trouble, I do believe these will get help from the government.

    However, unfortunately the way people treat “Credit” often means they are on reasonably good wages and yet get into financial trouble by over-stretching themselves. ie For their wages – they have had too many holidays, bought too much, live in too good a house for that wage… And so have not saved for a rainy day. Although I sympathise with anyone in financial trouble it is often due to what I’d consider poor money management.

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    “Although I sympathise with anyone in financial trouble it is often due to what I’d consider poor money management.”

    So the poor are poor because they’re stupid?

    Got it. 👍

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    Typical leftie Glad’,twisting what’s said. ;-) .

    What I said about those on low wages / the “poor” is:
    “Am extremely sympathetic to those on low wages that are in financial trouble, I do believe these will get help from the government”.

    The sentence you quoted was NOT about those on low wages / poor:
    “Although I sympathise with anyone in financial trouble it is often due to what I’d consider poor money management”.

    ie Anyone on any wage can have poor money management skills and get themselves into financial trouble due to over-stretching themselves. ie Someone on £100,000 a year in no way can be described as “poor”, and yet if buying too expensive car/s and too good a house / too big a mortgage and / or owe too much in credit card bills… And / or haven’t saved for a rainy day… Even those on good wages can find themselves in financial trouble if having poor money management skills.

    If people on reasonable wages are not going to save for a rainy day then they’re taking a chance with their own lives. No use crying that it’s the government’s fault if it all goes wrong.

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    Ginger for God’s sake get your nose out of the arse of the boss!

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    “Typical leftie Glad’,twisting what’s said”

    My apologies, Ginge. Was merely pulling your leg, in case it wasn’t obvious by the repeat of “Got it 👍 “ from my previous post.

    Anyway, we all know that the right never, ever twist things at all.

    They simply lie. 😎

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