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The Doncaster Cup will be sponsored by an e-cigarette company despite e-cigarettes being banned at the racecourse.
Freebies will be being given away during the meeting.
Are Doncaster ahead of the game or foolish for getting involved with a product which still divides opinion?
The e-cigarette industry is a booming one so it makes sense from a "bottom line" perspective.
However, nobody could abide by the sponsors giving away freebies of a dangerous substance more addictive than crack and heroin. If this is part of the sponsorship deal (I imagine it is) then the marketing department really ought to be ashamed of themselves.
I wouldn’t say it is a foolish move by Doncaster however since I can’t envisage the controversy leading to any discernible boycott.
I had thought any form of smoking advertisement was a thing of the past.
Mind you I still find this slightly less unbelievable than Unison sponsoring a whole card, also at Doncaster.
However, nobody could abide by the sponsors giving away freebies of a dangerous substance more addictive than crack and heroin.
Is nicotine dangerous when divorced from it’s tobacco-based delivery system?
Mike
It’s still addictive isn’t it?
Seems strange to hook up with a sponsor who’s product is banned from your premises and allow them to give away freebies. Maybe they’re thinking of overturning the ban.
It’s still addictive isn’t it?
It is yes, it was the use of the word ‘dangerous’ that I questioned.
My view is that ‘vaping’ is an excellent replacement for tobacco products and increasingly more doctors are recognising it as a modern, "real-world" solution to hard-core smokers who just cannot give up. Interesting too that ASH’s response in the same piece was (maybe surprisingly) very positive.
Donny hasn’t banned e-cigs per se, just from their indoor areas.
Mike
Have they banned normal cigarettes from the course?
This sort of thing does make me frustrated. An organisation promotes one thing and then does the exact opposite when it is in their favour. Every effort should have been made to obtain alternative sponsorship. I’m sure the Board would have discussed this at length, but in my opinion they have made the wrong decision. Although maybe it’s just me been biased as I am anti-smoking
Is nicotine dangerous when divorced from it’s tobacco-based delivery system?
Mike
It isn’t healthy… It’s probably safer in the liquid based form than tobacco based but it isn’t known for sure how safe the liquid delivery is at this stage. I subscribe to the theory that wherever there is a huge knowledge gap (particularly in medicinal fields), there is also an element of danger. Furthermore, there is still the "gateway" issue as well as the notion that it’s akin to replacing heroin with methadone.
If they were being marketed purely as a boring but effective cessation aid then I imagine I’d have less of a problem with this sponsorship deal. However, the promotion is anything but dull but effective. It’s sexy and it isn’t target specific. The idea of giving it out for free doesn’t sit well with me at all since one shouldn’t be offering any addictive substance all willy-nilly. After all, the commercialisation of health products should always be treated with scepticism since private interests are primarily and predominantly motivated by profit over public concern.
Nicotine in any form raises blood pressure. High blood pressure causes many health problems and is a dangerous long-term condition that can go undetected while it destroys organs.
Nicotine replacement products are fine as short-term aids to stopping smoking but these e-cigs are being promoted as long-term recreational products.
Sorry to sound like a preacher but enough **** happens to your body that you can’t do anything about; these e-cigs are just an example of business preying on the weak to make profit.
One is able to buy e-liquid that contains no nicotine.
And what is the point of that
Won’t smokers just crave nicotine more after using this One is able to buy e-liquid that contains no nicotine.
And what is the point of that
Won’t smokers just crave nicotine more after using this I guess most smokers that switch to e-cigs start off with 24mg/18mg of nicotine. I did myself. After a while I reduced it to 12mg. I now use 6mg. Eventually I will go to 0mg. Eventually I may even stop using the e-cig!
See the point yet?Not really on the 0 mg. Can see the point in the reduction and then maybe the reduction to 0 for a short period. Once you get to 0 you should start reducing the use of the cigarette. Surely it’ll be like me eating chocolate/biscuits that taste bland
I’m hooked on the ritual of smoking.
Sure, I don’t have to actually fumble for a cig then light up. I do have to fill it though, recharge batteries, clean it about once a week, then press a button to smoke it.
Updated ritual that’s all.Someone once pointed out the truism that ‘life is 6/4 against anyway" or summat like
Nicotine is a highly toxic alkaloid; in small doses an addictive stimulant/relaxant (yep both), as are caffeine, opioids and a myriad others
So it’s ‘dangerous’ in the sense that it’s rapidly habit-forming but the damage it does to the physical body largely minimal and the ‘buzz’ it provides probably worth what risk there is; if one isn’t intent on living life in a sanitised coccoon
Tobacco smoking is truly dangerous as the burning of dear old sotweed releases any number of carcinogens and other body-wrecking chemicals. It ain’t nicotine that causes the damage; the fallacy that it is one believed by many
e-liquid is basically the largely harmelss easily-vapourised propylene glycol laced with nicotine and various ‘flavours’ which are, I believe, permitted E-Number food additives
I wouldn’t encourage any non-smoker to start vaping but I’d encourage any tobacco smoker to switch; as I have done after 40+ years of cigar and pipe. The thought of Montecristo and Best Brown Flake are one of the reasons it’s worth getting out of bed in the morning but when one gets to a certain age, one realises that the days are growing short and the hitherto resilient body can’t take the hammering it used to do; and I want to live forever, drabber though from here to eternity may be
Damn sight cheaper too, though get it cheap while you can as Customs and Excise aren’t daft
It’s a positive from researchers at King’s College London and Queen Mary University claiming 6000 lives saved per million switchers from fags to vapes:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-29061169
BBC R5 have just had a phone-in with a number of glowing tributes from ex-smokers, one of 50 years standing who says he’s never felt better.
Don’t see any negatives here, I really don’t.
Mike (gave up 20 years ago!)
Won’t smokers just crave nicotine more after using this 
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