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  • #3961
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    What do people think of it? Personally I’m quite impressed and haven’t even managed to find Ms. Piper totally awful.

    There does seem to be a lot of London and not enough quarries, swamps or menacing country houses, but that is surely a minor issue!

    The help I require relates to my daughter, who has watched every episode with me and loves it. She is quite comfortable with monsters and robots and that sort of thing, so has been in her element up to last Saturday, so…

    Does anyone please have any advice on how to go about explaining the theoretical concept of time travel and the possible consequences of creating a paradox within the time-space continuum to a four-year-old with a background in Shrek and The Hoobs, rather than Physics or Applied Quantum Mechanics?

    Thanks in advance,<br>NV

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    Hiya,

    I’ve been enjoying the series hugely, too, and that as not much of a sci-fi fan. Mind, I’ve liked most of what I’ve seen of Russell T Davies’ output to date, from the genuinely terrifying kids’ drama Dark Season about fifteen years ago, through Queer as Folk to this.

    It would have been easy for the Beeb to knock out thirteen episodes of the "Quick, turn this way – eek! It’s a monster!" ad nauseam variety just to keep some people happy, but episodes like last weekend’s (and most of those concerning Rose and her family, come to that) have dared to imbue the whole premise with more depth and humanity than was previously ever the case (can anyone else ever remember another assistant being fleshed out so thoroughly?), and is all the better for it.

    In my more devilish moments it did occur to me how long it would be before some of Davies’ other projects cross-pollenated with Doctor Who, and I read today that the sky captain who appears this weekend is a bisexual who will try to get his hands in both Rose AND the Doctor’s trousers in the next series. Yay! Subversion on prime-time telly, I approve (and Davies had to think of something else after Victor Lewis-Smith beat him to the idea of Gay Daleks (see http://uk.gay.com/headlines/4036 , http://www.htw.ndirect.co.uk/tvoffal.html )…..

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    I quite like the new series.

    The modern graphics are superb.

    I am of an age that I remember the very first Dr Who – and cowering behind the sofa!

    I was dissapointed in only one "dalek" being shown and hope they will return in numbers in the future. Surely, they cannot write them off forever? I would have liked them rampaging up Downing Street saying:- "ID cards exterminate, ID cards exterminate, ID cards exterminate……"

    Regards- Matron<br>:cool:

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    I don’t just think it’s the best Dr Who series ever (and that from a big Tom Baker fan), I think it’s the best drama on TV at the moment.

    Billie Piper was excellent in an adaptation of The Millers Tale a couple of years ago, so I’m not surprised how good she is.

    Christopher Ecclestone is more of a surprise – I just didn’t see him in the role at all. Luckily Russell T Davies seems to have moulded the actor and the role together (having worked with him on the quite brilliant Second Coming must have helped).  

    <br>A ladybird book question if I may.  Assuming it’s conceivable that we could at some point in the future design a time machine (and I have a book on my shelves that I don’t understand that suggests we can):

    Presumably we have already been visited from the future, no?

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    I’ll look out for the Simpson’s episode, Grasshopper – I do remember it but haven’t watched much Simpson’s recently.

    If ‘people’ (or whatever we evolve into) in the future were coming back to us and changing things, we’d never know about it anyway (maybe Hitler originally won the war!) would we? It would just become part of our history that had always been.

    You’d have to say it would be a risky occupation, given that they could easily unhappen themselves by killing the wrong butterfly or coughing at the wrong time…

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    NV,  The Simpson’s episode is Tree House of Horror 5 – a halloween special.  Here is the link:

    http://www.snpp.com/episodes/2F03.html

    The back to the jurassic reference comes from Ray Bradbury’s "A Sound of Thunder".<br>

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    We finished watching the series and enjoyed it immensely all told, with my daughter crying at all the weepy bits but pretending she was alright.

    The best thing for me was enjoying such a ‘silly’ sci-fi series again and sharing it with Poppy.

    I asked her after ‘The Last Dalek’ episode whether she could remember what daleks say. She thought about it for a couple of moments before replying in a perfect stilted dalek voice (well, perfect for a four year old): "I’M-GOING-TO-KILL-YOU"… Priceless!!!

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    Any strong opinions either way on David Tennant’s appointment as the next Doctor, NV? I read that some of the jokes / catchphrases which worked the best from this series will be carried over into the next, although I’m not sure whether "You sound Scottish!", "All planets have a Scotland, you know" will work quite as well….

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    I think I’ll wait to see it first. He is not an obvious choice but then I wasn’t sure about Christopher Ecclestone and he turned out to be (imho) very good and I am slightly disappointed that he is not doing another series.

    :)

    Can’t help wondering what Ian Davros might have thought…

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    Not watched it for years, not a full episode anyway. Generally watch for a few minutes if there’s a new fella and had to watch when they installed a female Doctor, which is all part of the madness that’s going on lately.

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    Nothing against the big Coldplay fan Jodie Whittaker, but the Doctor should have stayed as a male role.

    I was quite amused at how Jodie Whittaker seemed to decide that the best way to act in her new part was to just have a slightly surprised look on her face at all times (or at all times that I looked in for a few minutes) maybe she wasn’t a fan of a female in the main role either?

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    … and that’s why she’s left. Just googled and it looks like we will be getting the first gay(that we know of) as the next Doctor.

    Thank feck it’s not Sam Smith. Would he/them want to be paid twice?

    The World has indeed gone mad when a person wants to be known as them.. and even madder when some bow to his wishes :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:

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    Let’s be honest, Bradley Walsh has picked up Whittaker and carried her throughout her time as Doctor.

    Walsh will go down as the best Doctor who never was, in fact.

    Returning to the Op, I thought the initial Russell T Davies reincarnation with Eccleston and Piper was genius.

    It attributed contemporary values to the whole subject, treated it with respect but also brought it into the 21st century.

    Great writing, great acting – by Piper as well as the brilliant Eccleston – and quite possibly the most complex Doctor/companion on-screen dynamic in the entire history of the series.

    He needed her every bit as much as she needed him – the bit at the end of “Rose” where Eccleston is clearly desperate emotionally for her to come with him was IMO outstanding.

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    Each to his own.
    I find Whittaker very good – once getting used to the Doc being female. However, writing isn’t what it was and her sidekicks certainly aren’t as good as Rose… since they’ve gone for comedians. That includes Walsh (who I otherwise like)… and Bishop isn’t any better.

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    To say I’ve watched the Doctor a lifetime would not be an exaggeration as I watched the very first episode which was broadcast the day following the death of President Kennedy and was hooked.Since that time Doctor’s have come and gone and I’m sure all regular watchers would have had their favourites along with multiple companions some more able than others.Talking of the many companions the one that left a lasting impression was Bonnie Langford quite simply because of them all she was so inept.

    Wasn’t surprised the last series lost so many viewers even I gave up on it.Woke and political correctness doesn’t have a place in such escapism and the BBC didn’t do themselves any favours.The current series being screened seems to have gone back to it’s previous format with the individual episodes linked by a common theme but don’t ask me why as I’m totally baffled why so many opponents of the Dr are featured or what overall part they seem to be playing in the plot or where it’s heading?

    Whittaker I find an effectual Dr mainly because of the confused nature and constant babbling to herself.Bishop’s character is just delusional and  for me a male version of Bonnie Langford.

    As for who will be next to play this legendary character the BBC want to think long and hard before once again employing their woke credentials and totally destroying a once loyal fan base.

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