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You didn’t put your foot in it there, you fell right into it… Yeats won 4 Ascot Gold Cups and couldn’t get warm in the Melbourne Cup. Yes there is a need to correct you and help you, the Melbourne Cup is no bumper, you obviously know little about racing…
A bit of a silly comment. Yeats was a close 7th in 2006, giving upwards of 7lbs (and in most cases over a stone) to every horse who finished in front of him. That came at the end of an arduous season, versus handicap snips trained for the day, on a dog track that would not have played to his strengths. It was one of the most notable handicap performances from a flat stayer in my lifetime.
You didn’t put your foot in it there, you fell right into it… Yeats won 4 Ascot Gold Cups and couldn’t get warm in the Melbourne Cup. Yes there is a need to correct you and help you, the Melbourne Cup is no bumper, you obviously know little about racing…
A bit of a silly comment. Yeats was a close 7th in 2006, giving upwards of 7lbs (and in most cases over a stone) to every horse who finished in front of him. That came at the end of an arduous season, versus handicap snips trained for the day, on a dog track that would not have played to his strengths. It was one of the most notable handicap performances from a flat stayer in my lifetime.
Don’t be stupid and call Flemington a dog track, Yeats was very ordinary, remember before the race according to there, he was going to eat those ‘snips’. If that is one of the most notable handicap performances you have seen well that is laughable…Yeats was not a close 7th the Japanese donkey licked the rest he was a very ordinary 8 lengths from the winner whom he only gave 5 pounds !!!! And those Japanese ‘snips’ are the best staying horses in the world… At least try to be accurate in comments…
By ‘dog track’ – I mean a very sharp, tight track. I wasn’t saying Flemington is actually a greyhound track – sorry if anything was lost in translation there.
Sure, Yeats didn’t win the Melbourne Cup and didn’t even produce the best performance at the weights. Still, to be close-up in seventh against handicap good-things merits plenty of praise. Remember:
– The tight track didn’t suit Yeats’ best strength – the bottomless stamina that allowed him to get 2m 4f so strongly. There’s a reason horses who don’t run over further than 1m 4f over here can stretch out to 2m in the Melbourne Cup.
– Yeats had been on the go since the start of the British season, coming through bigger targets like the Ascot Gold Cup before his afterthought attempt at Flemington’s big prize.
– Yeats’ rivals were very well handicapped and plotted for the race, whereas he was exposed with nothing to hide from the assessor.You’ve got to look at the circumstances of a performance rather than the bare distances sometimes. He didn’t win and he didn’t place, but he still put up a very special and creditable performance. I know you’re quite aggressive and a very patriotic person, but this is horse racing – the horses don’t know which country they’re from or who they’re representing. There’s no shame in acknowledging a big performance from an overseas horse.
I agree TYF The Melbourne cup was not a race for Yeats, early on the English/ Irish horses were of his ilk. It took a while but then it was realised that 90% of the time you need a horse with a bit of zip to win it. These days you need a horse that can either win or go close in a Group 1 10 to 12 furlongs, whilst that isn’t always the case it is more so rather than not. The great mare Makybe Diva won the cup with only 2 lbs less. These days in the cup you can wipe the horses that havn’t had a lead up run here in 90% of cases.
Quite clearly a sense of humour is in short supply down under.
Although, whoever decided a handicap is worthy of Group 1 status is definitely having a laugh.
....and you've got to look a long way back for anything else.
Aussie flat racing is a lot like our NH racing I’ve always thought, with a Handicap being the season’s highlight. Nothing wrong with it imo.
At least the top Oz horses give it a good go and run against each other, our top stables are increasingly about protecting reputations and stud values. The chicken and the egg riddle comes to mind, are they breeding (for example) Gleneagles to run in races or to breed other horses to run in races, etc etc.
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Quite clearly a sense of humour is in short supply down under.
Although, whoever decided a handicap is worthy of Group 1 status is definitely having a laugh.
You need to learn something about racing before putting stupid comments forward…
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