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Not a great deal of serious challengers to Edwardstone here although they all have had their good days.
Nube Negra has won this race before beating none other than Altior and is the one for the forecastGaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
I don’t think Edwardstone got anything like the credit he deserved for his Tingle Creek victory.
He storms home by nine lengths, hammering racefit course specialist Greaneteen OR 170, and only gets 170 himself and is called “dull” in the racing media.
It was the best performance I’ve seen over fences this season so far.
Deserves to be fours on for this and I wouldn’t lay that.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Agreed, Chezza. Greaneteen had already had a prep race and the Tingle Creek was, as the cliche goes, his Gold Cup. Edwardstone left him standing, and is worthy of a rating nearer 180 than 170.
The only way Edwardstone gets beaten here is if they go a crawl. Hopefully, Editeur Du Gite takes up his appointment, so that they go a proper gallop.
He is 2s on and should win it, but he could bounce, and this will be very much on the sharp side for him. If he wins as he did at Sandown, connections will be entitled to get out the polish and cloths for the Queen Mother Champion Chase trophy.
He ran on the corresponding day at both Sandown Park and Kempton Park last season and won both races.
He could bounce, he could find the Sunbury venue sharper than ideal, but I don’t personally consider either particularly likely.
He’s had roughly the same recovery time as last year, 2m is 2m, it’s currently Good to Soft and there’s a possibility of more rain.
I wouldn’t bet 2s on ante-post, but I do think he will be extraordinarily difficult to beat if he shows up.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"It’s not so much the recovery time, Ian. He was fully prepped for two races prior to Sandown, as you know, and withdrawn. The fact that he then ran 8lbs better than his previous best, surprising his trainer, punters and rivals, makes me think he was so wound up for it that he took quite a bit out of himself, despite how it looked. Maybe he’s the type to shrug that off, and King is a fine trainer. I love the horse and always backed him over hurdles. I’ve backed him for the Queen Mother, and I hope he takes them apart here, but it’ll be a watching brief for me. If he does disappoint, I’d go in again for Cheltenham.
Fair comment, Joe, when a horse is odds-on for a race you’re entitled to put its credentials right under the microscope and I certainly do think it was a storming career best – and by some margin on my numbers – first time out this season by Edwardstone at Sandown Park.
I will watch this Sunbury contest with even greater interest after your insightful comments here – thank you.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Edwardstone was excellent but let’s be honest greaneteen is an unreliable yardstick
Nicholls had him much fitter for Exeter this year and he didn’t travel with the same zest in the Tingle Creek.
Looks a very good chance for Edwardstone to get another win
Hopefully him and energumene get to march fit and firing as the race would be a bit of a damp squib if one of them doesn’t turn up as it’s a very thin division with the demise of shiskin
“greaneteen is an unreliable yardstick”
Greaneteen’s RPRs in two mile chases at Sandown, prior to this year’s Tingle Creek, read 165, 171, 168 and 171 again. Looks far from “unreliable” to me.
And you only have to do a quick online search to see how confident Nicholls was going into the race.
As I’ve said before, if Shishkin had left Greaneteen nine lengths behind him, nobody would be crabbing the form.
Reflecting back on it, what i would say is that significant amount of watering was done if i remember correctly at the Tingle Creek meeting to ensure Edwardstone (and Shishkin) turned up. That would’ve been a negative for Greaneteen.
Would Edwardstone beat Energumene over 2 miles at a dry Cheltenham?
I thought this was a thread about the Desert Orchid Chase?
The RPR seemed to think Greaneteen ran pretty much to form when runner up to Politilogue on Soft ground in the Tingle Creek two years ago and while Good ground probably suits him best he just seems to love the Esher venue.
Edwardstone is 8/13 with William Hill – I’d forgotten he’ll probably have a Grade 1 penalty in this, which gives one or two of the others a glimmer, but he should still win comfortably if he doesn’t bounce.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"I was very impressed with Edwardstone at Sandown, but I’ll go with an outsider here.
At 20-1, I have bet Dolos ew, as I thought that he ran well at Exeter last time
I can’t knock anyone betting each-way three places against an odds-on favourite in an eight- or nine-runner field.
It’s a Classic each-way thieving bet.
But now I’ve had a proper look at the weights, Edwardstone comes out at least 5lb clear on OR (and I think the BHA underrate him tbh), the ground’s gone Soft and I think he’ll pulverise them.
4/7 is actually fair – I make him fours on.
If he gets beat, you will hear the wailing from Hampshire even if you live in Scotland as he’ll be in all Chezza’s multiples!
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Edwardstone looks impossible to oppose here, but I’ll side with either Funambule Sivola or Editeur Du Gite for EW interest if it looks worth it.
There wasn’t anything remotely “muggy” about betting each-way against an odds-on favourite in this race until….it was reduced to a field of seven and two places.
If you’re on three places ante-post, you’ve got a value bet.
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