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Quite clearly the highlight of the Beeb’s Derby coverage was the rather sensible decision to follow Frankie back into the weighing room, post-race.
This would have flashed up a few red lights for me, as it would with anyone who had spent time in the bastion of a male-only sports changing room.
The net result of this crack at cinema verite was a live performance of Dettori screaming "F**cking yes, f**cking yes baby.  Champagne?  As much as you f**cking like!".
Jim McGrath’s mumbling apology for the "excitable language" was then superbly coordinated to a background shot of a jock towelling off with full genital exposure.
I think this could attract many more people to the sport.
Mike
In this age of compulsory equality we eagerly await the celebrations after the ladies’ race on King George day.
And there was a full frontal of a naked Johnny Murtagh :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
I dont see why everyone is making a fuss about it, I think he deserves to be excited!
Quote: from thedarkknight on 9:43 am on June 4, 2007[br]At least it showed Dettori in a more realistic light – hopefully viewers will have realised what a "me, me, me" little brat he really is…
Compare and contrast to Henry Cecil’s reaction in winning the Oaks….
At least what you see is what you get with Frankie, there is nothing false about him, unlike Willie Carson, the famous Carson Cackle, who in real life is a grumpy old Victor Meldrew.<br>Richard Hannon, when interviewed on RUK, granted he had indulged in a few bottles of Champagne or some other alcohol beverage, called Henry, "that old b-astard" twice. Make your own conclusions wether it was meant in a nice way or not.
Ditto Zorro, somehow I think the BBC will ban any future coverage of changing rooms male/female.
Was it not Mick Kinane’s genitals, Racinggirluk ??
The very same thing has happened on numerous occasions in the past – often during the BBC’s Grand National coverage (if that is the right word!)
There’s usually some nudity involved in the dressing-room footage, and it hasn’t stopped broadcasters from continuing with the filming.
In my ‘umble opinion the TV crews shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near the jockey’s changing rooms!!!
Victor Meldrew:angry: :angry: :angry:
Quote: from thedarkknight on 9:43 am on June 4, 2007[br]At least it showed Dettori in a more realistic light – hopefully viewers will have realised what a "me, me, me" little brat he really is…
Compare and contrast to Henry Cecil’s reaction in winning the Oaks….<br>
He is a down to earth guy, and would do anything for a friend or family, he does a lot for charity. He is not a brat and I have known him since he came to England, we shared a house in Newmarket when we was doing our apprenticeships…
And how can you comapare Henry Cecil to Frankie Dettori??? Henry has won both Classics before, it was fantastic and emotional for him to won with Light shift, he has a rough time of it in the last couple of years…. Butr Frankie has done something he thought he would never do and thats win the Derby, the only Group 1/ classic that has eluded him since he started riding….He has the right to celebrate how he wants too…
According to the valets it was Johnny Murtagh….but I will investigate the pic a little closer lol!!
I can assure you that what you see is most definitely not what you get with Dettori. He may well play to the TV galleries but having experienced his petulance and general rudeness when riding for a friend of mine, the reality couldn’t be further removed. Me, me, me sums him up nicely.
(Edited by Smithy at 11:18 am on June 4, 2007)
Quote: from thedarkknight on 10:59 am on June 4, 2007[br]
Quote: from racinggirluk on 10:36 am on June 4, 2007[br]<br>He is a down to earth guy, and would do anything for a friend or family, he does a lot for charity. He is not a brat
I will let people make their own judgement…
When he wins – "F**cking yes, f**cking yes baby.  Champagne?  As much as you f**cking like!".
When he loses – the pathetic scenes witnessed after last year’s QEII.<br>
At least he doesn’t pull his fellow jockeys off their horse !
I wasn’t too impressed with Dettori’s attitude when he rode Celeritas for us at Newmarket a couple of years ago. He came out of the weighing room and went straight over to his Maktoum mates (who also had a runner in the race) and was laughing and joking with them for a good couple of minutes. He then eventually decided to amble over to us where he muttered a few half-hearted ‘hellos’ and didn’t really appear to pay attention when he was given the riding instructions.
That, Happy Jack, will be because he couldn’t give a toss about small-time owners. I am sure if there had been a TV camera nearby, you would have been treated to the full Bella Pasta experience.
Quote: from Smithy on 12:46 pm on June 4, 2007[br]That, Happy Jack, will be because he couldn’t give a toss about small-time owners. I am sure if there had been a TV camera nearby, you would have been treated to the full Bella Pasta experience.
Thats Happy Jacks experience of Frankie, but I would say there is a lot of small time owners who have a lot of nice things to say about Frankie.<br>Maybe some of them might come on and share their views !<br>Lester Piggott, Pat Eddery were of the old school and very seldom showed much emotion after big wins, a tip of the cap and a wry smile at most. I suppose you can stick Mick Kinane into that bracket aswell.<br>When someone comes along like Frankie and lightens up racing from its stuffiness, he gets slated for it.
More Frankies and less Ryan Moores please !.<br>
It isn’t only Happy Jack’s experience though – I know of other disgruntled owners he has ridden for.
When you employ a jockey to ride for you, the least you expect is a degree of courtesy from them. I appreciate you aren’t going to change your mind, but there is more to the man than meets the eye.
I don’t think anyone expects him to be 100% wholesome. He does come across as a big kid at times but that’s his nature, and I’d say he has been fairly mollycoddled into the bargain.
Give him his due though.
<br>You can certainly add my name to the list of disillusioned small owners – didn’t listen before the race, made no effort during it and disappeared without a word afterwards.
In contrast, had Seb Sanders riding Salute one afternoon as a late substitute when the booked jockey was absent due to illness – he asked intelligent questions beforehand, rode exactly as we’d agreed he should and was clearly genuinely annoyed to have been caught in the last fifty yards.
AP
It was quite a few years back when I first noticed that Frankie wasn’t the man to have on board if you’re a small owner in a small race. Unless he is riding in a big race or for a big stable/owner you are unlikely to get the full effort you feel you are entitled to. I won’t for one moment begrudge the man however because he has shown racing in a positive light on many occasions and the sport needs its good publicity now more so than ever before. However, as a small owner I would take Kieren Fallon over Frankie every time……question marks and all.
Latin exuberance and the associated mood swings don’t rest easy in the staid land of the stiff upper lip.
Personally I will always prefer the understated ‘job done’ demeanour of a Piggott or Eddery following a victory as 99% of the time it’s the horse that wins the race not the jockey.
But I do try to keep lip-quivering to a minimum.
At the run-of-the-mill meets I’ve attended Dettori has long struck me as being as grumpy, self obsessed and introverted as ol’ Stoneface himself was. No problem but it only stengthens the feeling that his performance in front of the bright lights is a show…nothing more, nothing less.
The housewives loved Lester.
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