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June 3, 2023 at 15:52 #1650295
I like the first photo accompanying the article. Excellent technique in the tackle, good footwork and superb agility for a big lad. I hope he gets a “tackle of the year” award at his rugby club’s annual bash. Nice to see one of the front row (I assume) getting the limelight instead of the usual flash Harry backs.
June 3, 2023 at 16:04 #1650296I always set on record and watched an hour after the start so watched the Derby at 14.30, gives you the opportunity to flick through the ads and drivel.
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June 3, 2023 at 17:33 #1650316Think they had to move the race.
But it would’ve imo been better later in the day – following on from the Cup Final at around 5:30 or even 6:00.Could even make it a permanent thing.
Value Is EverythingJune 3, 2023 at 17:50 #1650321“But it would’ve imo been better later in the day – following on from the Cup Final at around 5:30 or even 6:00.”
5.30 or even 6.00 would have been too early Gingertipster in the event of extra time and penalties.
Matt Chapman suggested 6.45 would have been acceptable to ITV but the World Pool rules the day. It was probably a factor in that cock up in the Dash when the race should have been voided.
June 3, 2023 at 17:52 #1650323Realistically it couldn’t have been before 6.30 if leaving it until afterwards. If the football had gone to penalties then that would end nearly three hours after kick off (the recent Europa League final took three hours and five minutes). Add on the trophy presentation and the Derby isn’t happening before 6.30. You then have Epsom and Wembley kicking out time quite close to each other so I can’t imagine the Old Bill would have been too happy.
It’s a one off as the Cup Final will be back to normal next year, the world will still turn and we can forget this ever happened.
And football fans can go back to complaining that the Cup Final doesn’t kick off at 3pm ‘like it’s supposed to’. It’s not just racing fans who bemoan things not being like they were in the old days.
June 3, 2023 at 18:07 #1650331“It’s a one off as the Cup Final will be back to normal next year, the world will still turn and we can forget this ever happened.”
That is the sum of it.
I do not think an evening Derby was ever realistic. And whether we like it or not, ITV’s current offering – “Celebrity Tipping Point” – will probably bring in just as much advertising revenue for the channel as an outside broadcast of a non football sporting event will.
June 3, 2023 at 19:49 #1650347Final Score: If I thought Serpentine’s Covid Derby was weird – but good as at 50/1 he was one of my four win only bets on the race and the deserted Downs made a particularly nice fit with my mute button – today’s Cup Final Day early kick off Derby was right up there with it.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"June 3, 2023 at 20:42 #1650356I wonder what the attendance was like today, due to the rail strike. It is difficult to tell from watching on television but the atmosphere seemed a bit muted.
June 3, 2023 at 21:02 #1650365That’s a good point, Yeats.
You’re right, a 5:30 or 6:00 wouldn’t work.What about a 7:00PM evening Derby?
Would the World Pool be that much of a problem?
tbh I’ve not followed racing politics for a few years now.Value Is EverythingJune 3, 2023 at 21:05 #1650367“the atmosphere seemed a bit muted.”
It was certainly quieter than usual, which was no bad thing. Pity about the sea of parasols that has developed over the last few years; really ruins the viewing experience from the stands.
June 3, 2023 at 21:09 #1650369I don’t like the new stand in Tatts. The old stand was much better. I used to go right to the top of it where there was a panoramic view over the whole track.
June 3, 2023 at 21:11 #1650370“What about a 7:00PM evening Derby?”
I am not sure the police would favour it and I don’t expect it would be popular with residents of Epsom and Ewell either.
Would ITV really want to show the race at that time?
June 3, 2023 at 21:26 #1650373Given how full the pubs are near any major raceday at 10am, God knows what state people would be in by 7pm. I’m not saying it’s right but that’s the reality.
June 3, 2023 at 22:02 #1650378Good points CAS, Yeats and Richard.
You’ve convinced me a 1:30 start was best.Value Is EverythingJune 3, 2023 at 22:23 #1650380Something always had to give, they are both amongst the few events protected ‘free to air’ so in theory ITV4 would suffice, but I imagine there is probably a contract that requires ITV to show the major races on the main channel. An early start wasn’t ideal but it was the least bad option for all involved.
Funny old world, who’d have thought that some brown envelopes changing hands* between football officials over a decade ago would eventually lead to a 1.30pm Derby.
*Allegedly. Ahem.
June 3, 2023 at 22:50 #1650385At least with the 1.30pm start half the students would still have been in their pit meaning less disruption than there would have been if this had taken place at 4.30pm.
June 3, 2023 at 22:56 #1650387We may have come close to another Emily Davidson moment today without quick action by police.
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