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December 29, 2008 at 19:11 #200215
Message to Fists – and with all due respect.
Will you now concede that you have vastly overrated Sizing Europe and vastly underrated Sublimity ?
Sizing Europe’s light goes out far too quickly and far too often. He is not a class hurdler – and that is the truth of it. If that horse wins a Champion hurdle, I’ll eat my head sir – I will, I’ll eat my head … and the hair on it.
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December 29, 2008 at 19:13 #200216how did hardy go? had he any chance? but sublimity a real model of consistency, respect.
December 29, 2008 at 19:13 #200217Come on the Inca
My prediction is that Sizing Europe is this generations Harchibald.
I realise now I was being unfair to Harchibald…
Sizing Europe doesn’t even get to the last fence on the bridle. The excuses will be trotted out but he ain’t good enough.
December 29, 2008 at 19:15 #200218Flipping heck missed the race, didn’t realise the time. Will watch it on ATR site.
December 29, 2008 at 19:16 #200219I said after the Champion Hurdle this year that it is ok making excuses for the horse, that he was injured, and so on. If he had wanted to have won the CH in March and if he had been better than Katchit, Sizing Europe would have done so.
The truth is there was always a nagging doubt that he wasn’t the horse that he was being hyped up to.
Let’s be honest, he has been priced up and hyped up on his AIG win over Hardy Eustace et al, and every market with Sizing Europe within it, has been made up based on that run. That was an impressive victory that day, but he has never replicated that form in order to suggest that he is worth the reputation or the short prices he recieves within the market.
Well done to Sublimity today.
December 29, 2008 at 19:17 #200220Message to Fists – and with all due respect.
Will you now concede that you have vastly overrated Sizing Europe and vastly underrated Sublimity ?
Sizing Europe’s light goes out far too quickly and far too often. He is not a class hurdler – and that is the truth of it. If that horse wins a Champion hurdle, I’ll eat my head sir – I will, I’ll eat my head … and the hair on it.
Lol, liked that last paragraph.
I’m a big fan of Sizing Europe myself but I would have to agree that his light goes out too quickly and too often. He looks brilliant on the bridle and the second he comes off it his a*se collapses. He was one of my hopefuls for the CH but now…..
December 29, 2008 at 19:17 #200221Hardy and Brave Inca set out the pace and made it a decent enough pace.
The sublimity Knockers must surely give him credit now, as a very decent horse on his favoured ground conditions. He moved brilliantly throughout there.
I would say the same to the WITD knockers but dont think many have ever had him in the reckoning at the top. But the same would apply to the 2008 triumph form knockers. Celestial Halo apparently beat nothing….hmmm
December 29, 2008 at 19:20 #200222Sizing is a dog with flies…..and all we have learned today is that Binocular just needs to turn up with 4 legs to win in March. A decent run from Brave Inca who surely needs to be giving a chance at 3m
December 29, 2008 at 19:23 #200223AnonymousInactive- Total Posts 17716
Won In The Dark has run supremely well given that he’s still only a four-year-old. Whether or not he’s dependent on heavy ground remains to be seen.
December 29, 2008 at 19:26 #200224Sizing Europe went out like a light again, thats three times in a row now I think there is something wrong with that horse as he never did it when beating Osana in the Greatwood last year nor did he do it when he slammed Hardy and co in Ireland last year prior to his Champion Hurdle run.
Well done to Sublimity a decent run but he’s going to have to find wings to get near to Binocular at Cheltenham providing Henderson’s horse gets up the hill and I don’t expect Sublimity to get that close to Celestial Halo either.
December 29, 2008 at 19:28 #200225Well done to those who collected, but the form is not worth a sook, and Binocular has nothing to fear from any of today’s runners come March.
December 29, 2008 at 19:30 #200226Good run from Brave Inca too back in 3rd, he stayed on very well.
December 29, 2008 at 19:31 #200227Poor Hardy needs retiring now its such a shame to see him running like that. He’s been a wonderful servant for his connections but now I think its time let the horse enjoy himself in retirement.
December 29, 2008 at 19:36 #200229Why do some people still get pleasure out of telling Sizing Europe fans that the horse is crap and is overrated? The odd’s were 15/8 AGAINST us today and it didn’t come off, wow wee, your fecking geniuses.
I hope the same people who are really taken with Binocular (apart from you Fist for obvious reasons) get stuffed as well, so we can all laugh at them at Cheltenham.
Thats a bit harsh isn’t it?
For what its worth I don’t think the horse is "crap" at all but I do think he has a problem which hasn’t yet been detected.
December 29, 2008 at 19:42 #200232Why do some people still get pleasure out of telling Sizing Europe fans that the horse is crap and is overrated? The odd’s were 15/8 AGAINST us today and it didn’t come off, wow wee, your fecking geniuses.
I hope my post, any none of my others for that matter, came across like that, as i am not one to stir up trouble. It is only my personal opinion, i have never had any money on him so im not annoyed at him in that sense either.
December 29, 2008 at 19:54 #200235Message to Fists – and with all due respect.
Will you now concede that you have vastly overrated Sizing Europe and vastly underrated Sublimity ?
Sizing Europe’s light goes out far too quickly and far too often. He is not a class hurdler – and that is the truth of it. If that horse wins a Champion hurdle, I’ll eat my head sir – I will, I’ll eat my head … and the hair on it.
With all respect to Bulwark who did amazingly well that form is not worth a pinch of salt.
Sublimity V Won in The dark he would be 1/10 to beat him.
Turned out to be a very ordinary race due to SE’s poor display and Sublimity wasn’t on my mind for Cheltenham and that certainly hasn’t changed a thing.
I don’t know what condition Sizing Europe was going into that race but if he was anywhere near spot on then I would have to agree I did overrate him. Could it be they are taking their time with him and he isn’t anywhere near ready yet? I honestly haven’t got a clue but the AIG will tell all when the two will possibly meet again. I have never seen him go out so tamely with no apparant excuse. Champion Hurdle I could understand last time out you would expect that but tdy he was just lifeless…..very strange.
Mind you I can’t say I have ever been happier whe backing a loser Just can’t see anything that can possibly beat Binocular now and if this keeps up he could end up odds on
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December 29, 2008 at 20:07 #200238Guys you should all know better than write-off any horse because of a couple of bad runs.
Sizing Europe has already shown he is a decent horse when he’s on song by winning the Greatwood and the AIG a race after which he was made as short a price for the CH as Binny now is.
Would suit me fine if he never raised a gallop at Cheltenham but I am not stupid enough to think we’ve seen the last of him.
How many of you wrote off katchit last year and how many of you wrote off kauto this year?
I would suggest you wait and see what happens next before judgng the horse…………..I would be happy to bet he runs and wins sometime soon as that was too bad to be true.
I heard a guy on radio say he is a bridle horse……..he obviously never seen the way he was winning before Cheltenham..horse absloutely flew when asked in the past and one thing he is not is a bridle horse,
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