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  • #12459
    MDeering
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    I don’t expect Canford Cliffs to justify his 4/9 favouritism against a pretty good field that all have strong claims for a Group 1, TBH. Dolled Up is not the worst outsider by any means.

    A really decent acid test for him all the same.

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    I don’t think Zanzibari and Dolled Up are serious threats, but Special Duty has shown plenty of promise and

    Arcano

    was impressive in the July Stakes last time out. At first glance they would appear to have it all to do to topple Canford Cliffs, but I still have my reservations about the Hannon horse and fancy the latter to make it three from three.

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    I think Canford Cliffs is the real deal and the best two year seen out this year.

    I expect him to win.

    * Just watched the previously impressive Cape Blanco (1/5) battle hard to see off moderate opposition at Fairyhouse. :?

    Gambling Only Pays When You're Winning

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    I couldn’t care less if Nihinsky himeself was a 2yo and running…if he falls he still gets up and still wins…..keep the kitchen sink and put everything else on…..come Aprol 2010 you’ll be asking Sea the who? :wink:

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    I seem to remember Teifilo winning in a simliar manner a few yrs ago

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    thehorsesmouth
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    "Fist" wrote: I couldn’t care less if Nihinsky himeself was a 2yo and running…if he falls he still gets up and still wins…..keep the kitchen sink and put everything else on…..come Aprol 2010 you’ll be asking Sea the who? :wink:

    Agree that Canford Cliffs should win tomorrow, but I just don’t see him winning Classics next year. I think he could get beaten over a mile or further when he comes up against a Kingsfort, a St Nicholas Abbey or a Steinbeck.

    Zanzibari is overpriced at 10/1 for tomorrows race. If Frankie could dictate a sedate pace, he might be able to go close. Wouldn’t surprise me if Canford won on the bit though.

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    Goldikova
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    If the other horses are up to a similar standard to Arcano, this just means the whole lot of them will be battling for second place. Canford Cliffs will have ran back to his stable in england by the time the rest reach the finishing line i suspect.

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    towerto
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    special duty isnt top class
    zanzibari will be outpaced over 6f
    dolled up is a dog

    if canford cliffs doesnt win this he wont win a gr1

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    I couldn’t care less if Nihinsky himeself was a 2yo and running…if he falls he still gets up and still wins…..keep the kitchen sink and put everything else on…..come Aprol 2010 you’ll be asking Sea the who? :wink:

    Agree that Canford Cliffs should win tomorrow, but I just don’t see him winning Classics next year. I think he could get beaten over a mile or further when he comes up against a Kingsfort, a St Nicholas Abbey or a Steinbeck.

    Zanzibari is overpriced at 10/1 for tomorrows race. If Frankie could dictate a sedate pace, he might be able to go close. Wouldn’t surprise me if Canford won on the bit though.

    Kingsfort? you got me there I will have to look that one up but I dobt if St Nicholas Abbey will rn over a mile next year although I did PM our TAPK and say I thought I had just seen Mastercaftsman with wings and immediately backed him for rhe Derby. I suppose AOB could aim him for the Guineas but if Canford Cliffs wins like I think he will today I thiink OAB will train St NA for the Derby and give the 2000G a miss. As far as Steinbeck is concerned I think AOB has better than him at home. He looked ok when he won at Naas but Gold Bubbles is a pretty ordinary 2yo.

    This is the 2nd time OAB has pulled a horse out of races involving Canford Cliffs and with good reason. On the book Alfred Noble deafeat of Air Chief Marshall just doesn’t justify taking CC on…….long way to France to be told "that was a waste of time" when he could probably pick up another Group win in Ireland

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    POP!! :P

    #245383
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    Marvellous :D

    I don’t think Arcano was ideally suited by the ground, but there’s no reason to suspect he hasn’t run close to his best and as such the overall result is a little disappointing.

    Dick Turpin wins the Guineas then.

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    Stacelita
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    Not really a suprise resultbut still not the Canford Cliffs people had hoped for far too skiiny to back a 2yo at them odds.

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    Goldikova
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    Has anyone got a replay ?

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    thehorsesmouth
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    "Fist" wrote:

    I couldn’t care less if Nihinsky himeself was a 2yo and running…if he falls he still gets up and still wins…..keep the kitchen sink and put everything else on…..come Aprol 2010 you’ll be asking Sea the who? :wink:

    Agree that Canford Cliffs should win tomorrow, but I just don’t see him winning Classics next year. I think he could get beaten over a mile or further when he comes up against a Kingsfort, a St Nicholas Abbey or a Steinbeck.

    Zanzibari is overpriced at 10/1 for tomorrows race. If Frankie could dictate a sedate pace, he might be able to go close. Wouldn’t surprise me if Canford won on the bit though.

    Kingsfort? you got me there I will have to look that one up but I dobt if St Nicholas Abbey will rn over a mile next year although I did PM our TAPK and say I thought I had just seen Mastercaftsman with wings and immediately backed him for rhe Derby. I suppose AOB could aim him for the Guineas but if Canford Cliffs wins like I think he will today I thiink OAB will train St NA for the Derby and give the 2000G a miss. As far as Steinbeck is concerned I think AOB has better than him at home. He looked ok when he won at Naas but Gold Bubbles is a pretty ordinary 2yo.

    This is the 2nd time OAB has pulled a horse out of races involving Canford Cliffs and with good reason. On the book Alfred Noble deafeat of Air Chief Marshall just doesn’t justify taking CC on…….long way to France to be told "that was a waste of time" when he could probably pick up another Group win in Ireland

    Agree wholeheartedly that St NA has Derby written all over him. He was so impressive wasn’t he?! Kingsfort, trained by Kevin Prendergast. He won one of the hottest maidens run here all summer.

    Prices of 8/1 Arcano for the 2000 guineas look very skinny to me. Surely Alfred Noble would have won?!

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    Absolutely gutted! didn’t have the guts to watch the race so haven’t seen the race and not sure I want to.

    Everything added up to him winning the race easily but as I once said on here you never know on the flat when you are going to meet the next Sea Bird. Not saying Arcano is, but comparing these 2 year olds is one dangerous game as I just found out,,,,If anyone hears of me having another bet on the flat please feel free to shoot me :?

    I will continue to comment but apart from a few AP bets I have running no more flat for me….rather have my lot on a seller at Hexam :oops:

    You would think that would have put a smile on many trainers faces apart from Brian Meehans….he did look special this CC but unless something untoward comes out in the washing he would surely not be aimed at the guineas….can’t say I’ve seen anything special aprt from AOB’s St Nicholas but who am I to judge.

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    No sense in being a cry baby :cry: so I watched the race just now here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kalgOpBaHVU

    Only my opinion but they don’t look to have been going much of a pace at all for the first half of that race. Canford Cliffs never looked at anytime like the horse that was pulling his arms out at Ascot for the first 4, although he looked to be travelling ok.

    The 5 of them can’t all be red hot but they fnished in a heap with about 1 length+ between them because the race turned into a sprint finish…..very like when Art Connissuer won….the one at the back picked them all up…..be interesting to hear what RH and Hughsie have to say but this could be a false result and the form might be turned on it’s head in the future although the winner looks good.

    #245402
    Stacelita
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    :P No excuses can really be made the time was very good which shows the pace was good. Canfords Cliffs probably thought he had gone into orbit in the final furlong :lol: :roll: Ive heard that 1 before.
    Arcano will like a step up in trip the way he was finishing

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