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Very rare I like one on this…….
https://www.racingpost.com/racecards/107/york/2020-07-09/760835
https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/flat/dubai-dante-stakes/winner
….but I do quite like Cormorant. I threw a couple of pounds his way for The Derby on the exchanges, but I knew it was always unlikely that he’d go there.
I liked how he held off Russian Emperor at Leapordstown, and I think he could go close here, as well as having some other nice races in him.
No idea if he’ll definitely be running, as he looks just too big, but happy to take a chance.
Cormorant 7’s
This is a very interesting race this year.
Thunderous ran a cracker last time considering he had an injury during the Winter. Johnston likes to run one of his decent ones in this having won the 2017 renewal and finished 2nd in 2018. Having said that, I don’t think Volkan Star would get mapped in this + while Thunderous should improve I’d look elsewhere..
Cormorant should be running I suspect Bobby, he isn’t entered anywhere else. In theory the form has worked out well, but I think he stole the race last time.
Not sure what to make of Juan Elcano. He could improve now he’s had some time off, but I’m not sure how good he can get to.
Al Suhail will improve for his Guineas run, but I don’t think he deserves to be 5/1 while Al Madhar sits at 10/1? He wasn’t awesome last time but still did enough on reappearance. Encipher was only touched off, and I think both are overs, and I will probably split stakes on both.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!Good luck with the pair Jack.
Yeah, a lot went right for Cormorant last time, but I’m hoping more to come from him.
Not a big betting race for me The Dante, and couldn’t tell you last time I had a bet in it, but thought he was worth a go.
Having said that, I don’t think Volkan Star would get mapped in this + while Thunderous should improve I’d look elsewhere..
This maybe looks silly now, as the horse that beat him won the Jockey Club quite impressively!
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!Oh wow the Dante is Thurs! I just realised, another cracking week of racing! Al suhail is jocked up for the listed Henry Cecil mile on Friday Jack
Good spot Frenchy. If i was properly convinced on the two on my shortlist i’d back them right now!
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!Need to have a deeper look tomorrow but looks all about Highest Ground to me on first glance. Why is Andrea Atzeni not on Juan Elcano?
Yeah a bit like Crowley going to Newmarket too- though they have some good rides there too? Probably a close call but the card at Newmarket the better one and maybe that’s why they are heading there.
Frankie obviously going for Franconia really, but is on Encipher.
Al Suhail seems to be going to Newmarket. Tilsit same.
That leaves us with the dead 8.
Royal Dornach has an entry on Saturday at the Curragh over 7f. Although it’s open to older horses.
I’m quite tempted to have a pop at my two i’ve mentioned e/w. Hard to separate them though
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!I think everyone is really excited about the potential of Highest Ground and I’d love to see him win well. I do quite like the look of Cormorant as well, do we know if he is running yet?
10/11 past winners put up their best last time out, so that’s a negative for Royal Dornoch, Juan Elcano and Al Suhail(if he runs).
11/11 past winners had either run less than 4 times or put up an RPR of 109 already, so that’s a negative against Thunderous for me and also Damage Control
Tilsit is another one jocked up for the Sir Henry Cecil at Newmarket, so doesn’t appear to be running.
That leaves trying to work out whether that Novice stakes with Al Madhar beating Encipher is any good.
Has Al Madhar been a little slow to come to hand maybe? Wasn’t he supposed to run at Royal Ascot as well?
Not sure about Encipher, run 3 times and done nothing much.
On the face of it, doesn’t appear as though Highest Ground should be worried about either of those two, but hard to be super confident.
but I’m leaning towards a decent bet on
Highest Ground 5/4Cormorant would be the danger if running.
Frenchy, do you not like looking at all of the form book and just focus on their most recent run as that’s what you seem to be doing with Al Madhar.
Nice arrogance Kev. I meant why do you think I don’t look at all the form?
Why don’t you just give your point of view instead of coming across like an idiot?
Think he was trying to point out that on debut he beat al suhail and first receiver at Newmarket so al madhars form has more depth than just his second run
But it was a rather funny way of going about saying that
If declared he is my selection
Don’t rate waldkonig at all so il be taking on the fav
I’m being blunt, but come on, The maiden Al Madhar won last year is one of the hottest maidens run all year and you’ve not even taken notice of it.
Trends are pointless for races like this surely? It’s a different race (usually a Derby trial) at a completely different time in the season.
Al Madhar 10/1 is the value here.
As i said earlier in the thread it was between Al Madhar + Encipher for me here. I’ve marginally sided with Al Madhar, hard to be sure, as there wasn’t much between them last time, off similar layoffs. In general though, Hannon’s would take a run or two and while Gosden’s can i would say he usually has them straighter (this backed up with Encipher going off fav).
I won’t bother running through them all again too much, but Highest Ground could be absolutely anything as we all know. He was on many minds for the Derby before the season got underway late. However, he’s even money here after beating Waldkonig a horse that i agree with FF91 over. He has somewhat flattered to deceive. Looked a monster + hasn’t lived up to it. I suppose he was beaten by Jockey Club winner + Volkan Star won next time out too, but still. I wasn’t actually blown away with Highest Ground that day like many were. York will certainly suit him though as he looks to like to gallop. At evens now, i don’t think there’s any value in him, even if the race cuts up like i suspect, he doesn’t warrant being much shorter than he is now.
Given i still think we might be under 8 runners here a good ew bet seems the way to go. I am not a big big trends man, but given the two i’d shortlisted haven’t been ruled out by your trends Frenchy i am going to play Al Madhar ew.
I suppose from a stats perspective, something i like to consider more, Hannon’s York record is terrible with 34 runners and only 1 winner from 5 seasons with his 3yos.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!
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