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  • #27416
    RubyLight
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    Fatally injured in the 1.05 at Doncaster today.
    Broke his neck or back in a fall at the 2nd flight. Was absolutely clueless as a hurdler. Very sad

    #502528
    BlackGold
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    First hurdle fall and I think a broken neck. Came down on his neck/shoulder junction. RIP. :(

    #502549
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    The horse will of been very well schooled from that stable Ruby Light

    #502552
    RubyLight
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    Stop defending trainers. They are by no means super natural. I know that Philip Kirby is a very good trainer given the material he has to handle. Nevertheless this horse had crap form since he ran in weak races at a poor track and was beaten 130 lengths in just 2 starts over hurdles. Last time he was struggling just after 4 flights and was a 100-1 shot. If you want to talk about proper schooled horses, let’s talk about French trained horses or about stables that can maintain form more consistently than just for a few days in a row.

    #502570
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    I will defend trainers who deserve defending….
    Do you know him? Have you visited his yard?
    This is a good very caring trainer

    #502578
    RubyLight
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    Just read my lines and the please tell where I have stated that he doesn’t care about his horses. Nevertheless, this horse had extremely poor form and was years away from being a NH horse.
    It’s sad for the horse to have met this kind of an end and you had the chance twice to post something about the poor animal.
    You only defend someone who is in first place responsible for finding the suitable disipline and then proper race(s) for a horse. Unfortunately this was not the case for poor Danehill Flyer. It probably deserved a nicer end than one with its legs up in the air and not moving at all.

    #502589
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    I made a personal condolence to trainer and staff..if you need to know…
    I did not realise you knew so much about training …remind me when was your last winner and your total this season…

    #502590
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    You accuse me of not caring yet you call horses ‘material’ in an earlier post that I find callous…

    #502597
    RubyLight
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    So therefore people that haven’t trained any winners are not entitled to comment on racing matters or what? That means that owners should shut up. Well, if that is your world, then you can have it.
    And if you care about a horse or any animal at all, you should make sure that it is not asked to do the impossible. Especially when it shows zero aptitude for something.
    I still feel very sorry for the horse. What an ugly way to have its life terminated.

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    Very sad day and sad to lose the beautifully bred Danehill Flyer in this way :(
    Feel sad that someone didn’t just say enough is enough for the poor boy he obviously wasn’t enjoy his racing for some time now by the distances that he was getting beaten.

    The point is these horses are gelded and have limited options away from racing. There are some brilliant charities that have rehabilitation centres but apparently ex-racehorses are extremely difficult to re home and a lot of charities do this on a loan basis and keep a keen eye on them at all times.

    I wish Danehill Flyer had been given a chance by his owners to have a life away from the racecourse but sadly for him it wasn’t to be.
    I’m sure he was much loved at his yard and they are feeling this as much as we are.

    RIP Danehill Flyer :(

    Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...
    #502698
    Bonanzaboy
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    Yesterday was one of those times you don’t want to write about, the horsebox came home without Danehill Flyer, he very sadly lost his life falling at the first flight in the novice hurdle at Doncaster, our only runner of the day. Poor Danny had been with us since a 2 year old and was just learning his job over hurdles, he had been keen and quick on his first two starts, but this time he just stepped at the first, and he paid the ultimate price, although thankfully did not suffer. Commiserations to his owners, Keith and Jayne Sivills – and Sarah Olley has looked after him since he arrived, she had been very attached to this real character as well.

    Sorry I’m technically inept so the above is the best I can do – a quote from Philip Kirbys website. For anyone who’s interested he’s put some lovely photos on of Danny. It might be better for everyone’s mental health to have a look rather than arguing, being bitter, emotional etc etc.

    I’m gutted about Danehill Flyer – I am about every racehorse who dies racing – I dwell on it, agonise about it.

    However, I refer you to one of my earlier postings regarding a well known racehorse who won a lot of money for his owner who then dumped him and left him to starve to death. Thankfully he was saved, but is still a worry as he has lost the will to live. Now that’s cruelty. I appreciate that Danehill Flyer wasn’t that good, but he wasn’t cruelly treated and no-one intended or wanted his death.

    #502718
    RubyLight
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    Well I had the chance to read the tribute on the trainer’s website and I must say that I was really impressed. Beautiful pictures of a beautiful horse that went just too soon.
    But fair play to the trainer and hopefully more could follow suit when it comes to an equine loss.

    #502722
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    A throughly decent trainer and guy and a lovely tribute..
    For those that are concerned regarding retired horses read his posts on past horses in his care….

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    I’m currently very concerned at Montaff plying his trade over hurdles as I feel he’s going nowhere and deserves a nice retirement.

    #502782
    RubyLight
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    Montaff contested 9 races since Richard Guest took him over at the beginning of September 2014.
    In those 9 races he was beaten a total of about 270 lengths in class 5 or class 6 races. A 9-year old horse by Montjeu should deserve a happy retirement by now……

    #502870
    Bonanzaboy
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    Sadly Moehat, some trainers care about their horses and some care about money. I always have fears for horses placed with certain trainers. And you just have to hear some owners and trainers talking at racecourses to know that the welfare of their horse isn’t even on their radar – it’s there to make money and if it doesn’t, or once it’s injured, too old, I don’t know what’ll happen to it but it’s not likely to be good. You get paid for sending a horse to slaughter, nothing for giving it away to a potentially good home. It breaks my heart. So much for ‘treated like royalty’.

    Try emailing trainers for info regarding their horses and you’ll soon get a picture of who cares and who doesn’t. I’ve had very personal answers from trainers (who are very busy but still take the time to respond), including major league trainers, who clearly really care.

    And some trainers clearly do care for their horses, ie Philip Kirby, Lucinda Russell, Ruth Carr, Micky Hammond and others all have information on their websites keeping everyone up to date with where their retired horses are and what they’re doing. Others do too – big trainers like David Pipe and Alan King I can’t list them all – there’s a lot. But some don’t.

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    Avatar photoThe Young Fella
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    A nine year old horse by Montjeu deserves to be retired? What?

    Montjeu gelding Hurricane Fly’s still producing his best at age 11. Montaff saves plenty for himself and, unsurprisingly, looks after himself as a hurdler. He’s never going to be a horse for betting purposes, but I see no reason why he should be retired.

    RIP Danehill Flyer though, really tragic circumstances.

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