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    Avatar photoSea Pigeon
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    I know the weights aren’t out for this yet,but Garde Champetre (best price 9/4) will be top weight. The only danger I can see is Sizing Australia (best price 8/1).
    Will be backing both but EW on the latter.

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    I know the weights aren’t out for this yet,but Garde Champetre (best price 9/4) will be top weight. The only danger I can see is Sizing Australia (best price 8/1).
    Will be backing both but EW on the latter.

    Seems a fairly likely outcome, I’d say you’ve pinpointed the first two home

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    L’Ami will very likely be around a stone better off for just under 2L in this last year, and I reckon he can finish runner-up to Garde Champetre.

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    I’ve heard that the weights are out today, anyone know what time this’ll be?

    #280284
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    L’Ami will very likely be around a stone better off for just under 2L in this last year, and I reckon he can finish runner-up to Garde Champetre.

    L’Ami gets a miserly 8 lbs from Garde…he hasn’t got a hope in h*ll

    #280322
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    L’Ami must be just about the most one paced plodder in racing, albeit a relatively classy one. Won’t be winning this.

    Sizing Australia is a knocking e/w bet @ 5/1+. I took 6/1 last week. Won’t be out of the first 4 and has a decent win chance being still fairly young and lightly raced off 10-2

    #280325
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    Im never convinced that the weights have so much of a part to play in this race. Or perhaps i should say that the concessions have to be far more significant than in standard chases to play a part

    Agreed?

    #280332
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    I agree, clivexx. The race usually goes to the class horses, and the only time a handicap snip won, was when Garde champetre himself did a coup,e of years back. Favourites dominate.

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    Im never convinced that the weights have so much of a part to play in this race. Or perhaps i should say that the concessions have to be far more significant than in standard chases to play a part

    Agreed?

    Completely
    Weight doesn’t have the same effect on a sharp track that it does on a stiff one, and should have even less bearing on these ‘in and out the windows’ set-ups. Something Stewart Simpson based his betting on, back in the times when David Johnson was still in short trousers, (or so I’m told). :wink:
    I’m no scientist, but I’d guess it has to do with the velocity being less, even though the mass is slightly greater, so the energy use would also be less?

    #280340
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    Something like that i suppose …

    Good point though and maybe very true when thinking about sharp tracks in general. In effect its a real stop/start race and i juts think some horses/riders take to it better than others regardless of weight carrying

    not going to bother researching but hasnt this been born out by results in these particualr races?

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    Garde Champetre is the best bet of Cheltenham in terms of value for money is the best bet of Cheltenham in my opinion. Classy proven horse. Lump.

    #280376
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    Weight does have an effect. Its the only reason to eplain why Spot The Difference was beaten on his last two runs at the festival

    #280468
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    I wouldn’t be too quick to write L’Ami off. He has had a wind op since last year and won’t be far away. I think JT will look to hold onto him a bit longer this time round. Garde should still do him for speed though.

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