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Could the jockey put you off backing a horse if you really fancied it?

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    I was seriously looking at backing a horse at Kempton tonight but as soon as I saw the jockey I abandoned all thoughts. Of course the horse could still have won but there was no way I could have backed it. As it happens my opinion of the jockey was vindicated during the race, in my mind at least.

    Frankly I’m not sure how this jockey keeps getting rides from this trainer, rode one in a big handicap last season for the him that I fancied a lot apart from the jockey and they rode an absolute shocker. If I owned a horse there’s no way I could have this jockey on no matter what the trainer said.

    So are there jockeys out there who you could never back no matter what they’re riding?

    #1221252
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    Personally, I only seriously assess the pilot if it’s a non-professional jockey.

    I don’t have a preference apart from that and consider jockey bookings are given too much importance.

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    I know this sounds ridiculous, but I never backed horses ridden by A P Mcoy, I always wanted to take him on and find something to beat him. I also felt that bookmakers would draw punters in with big price doubles on his chances of riding winners at the weekends and especially at the Cheltenham Festival where he never really rode more than 1 or 2 winners throughout the whole 5 days.

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    #1221261
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    I know this sounds ridiculous, but I never backed horses ridden by A P Mcoy, I always wanted to take him on and find something to beat him. I also felt that bookmakers would draw punters in with big price doubles on his chances of riding winners at the weekends and especially at the Cheltenham Festival where he never really rode more than 1 or 2 winners throughout the whole 5 days.

    Yes that does sound ridiculous :-) Anyway, the festival was 3 days for many years till it switched to 4 days a few years ago. There was talk of 5 days, but I don’t think this will happen.

    #1221262
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    For my part, I rarely bet on any beast that Ann Stokell gets a leg up on.

    #1221263
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    LOL..you can tell I’m not a NH fan DB..thinking of Royal Ascot already. ;-) although I do enjoy the Cheltenham festival even though I lost day along the way. Thank you for pointing that out, perhaps now they have spent so much on the redevelopment 5 days will soon be on the cards. The bookies will miss AP but I won’t.

    Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...
    #1221264
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    I’m just glad that he’s safe and sound. love that man :rose:

    *blush*

    #1221270
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    One that springs to mind is the 2010 Grand National.

    Had it down to a shortlist of 3, and one of my main fancies, Character Building, wasn’t jocked up, and I was hoping they’d go for Jamie Codd, who’d enjoyed some success with the horse. But no, they made a very strange choice, and went, for reasons unknown, Nina Carberry. I binned it. I needn’t have worried, and they never troubled the judge.

    That’s the only time I can think of when I’ve deliberately left a horse alone because of jockey booking, but I have 3 or 4 who I’d rather not see on my fancies, but not enough to put me off backing them.

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    i think you have to try and blocked out whose riding your selection(i only back in pattern races/heritage h’caps so usually i am ok),but there were a few jock’s i just couldn’t get right.Mouse Roberts was one that springs to mind,along with Edward Hide.If i backed this pair,they’d get it wrong,or if against them they would ride a peach of a race.
    Both very decent jockey’s but i just couldn’t get them right.

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    As soon as I saw the title here, Edward Hide sprang immediately to mind !

    #1221298
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    No, the jockey is not something I take much notice of

    I guess I prefer to see someone I’ve heard of but that’s about it……or a claimer in a handicap and then I would look to see if he’s won any races

    I figure there’s probably not that much between the known jockeys and we have no idea in advance if Jockey A is going to ride well today or not.

    I figure that the inherent Chaos within a horse race throws up much more variability than any quantifiable difference between pro jockeys

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    What about the fact that women aren’t as strong as men? Are you put off by a female jockey? AP McCoy thinks they should be given an allowance as they are weak girlies. Do you agree?

    http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/female-jockeys-should-get-allowance-mccoy/1987748/top/#newsArchiveTabs=last7DaysNews

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    Funny you should say that DB, my example was a woman jockey, but on the whole it wouldn’t put me off, just that particular time it was a major factor.

    I remember topping up on Seabass for the 2012 National, when Katie Walsh was confirmed as the jockey, and I bet Cootamundra at Punchestown last year, and it was her being on board that swayed me.

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    What about the fact that women aren’t as strong as men? Are you put off by a female jockey? AP McCoy thinks they should be given an allowance as they are weak girlies. Do you agree?

    http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/female-jockeys-should-get-allowance-mccoy/1987748/top/#newsArchiveTabs=last7DaysNews

    Hot Off The Press : A P McCoy Speaks The Truth…And 2 + 2 = 4 !!

    “Tactically they can be as good but if it comes down to strength in a finish, a woman is not going to be as strong as a man. There aren’t many sports where women compete against men and on a day to day basis are women as physically strong as men? No they’re not. It’s just fact.” ~ A P McCoy RP Online

    How dare a man with such unparalleled success in the saddle speak such common sense. No doubt a ‘Liberal Trendy’ will get word of this comment and form a petition to have his contract with Channel Four terminated with immediate effect.

    This guy is a machine. All he does is work out and pick winners. Talk about fit. You should see him without his shirt off, serious side of beef.

    #1221325
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    I think he’s certainly stirring things up with his views on this, just before starting his new career ;-)

    #1221326
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    Speaking of Edward Hide – a coincidental embarrassing moment last night at a quiz with my racing friend.

    Question: What was Dr Jekyll’s first name?

    My mate: ‘Know something, Edward just sprang into my mind, I don’t know why.’

    Me: ‘It did with me too.’

    Only after I wrote it down did I twig the off-kilter subliminal connection we’d made at the same time

    (answer is Reginald)

    #1221330
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    Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, indeed

    Anyway, who guessed that Channel 4 were grooming AP to be the next Big Mac? :whistle:

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