The home of intelligent horse racing discussion
The home of intelligent horse racing discussion

could Galileo sire a champion hurdle winner?

Home Forums Tipping and Research Trends, Research And Notebooks could Galileo sire a champion hurdle winner?

Viewing 9 posts - 1 through 9 (of 9 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #19826
    mdwillis
    Member
    • Total Posts 82

    We all know the Galileo has been a revelation as a stallion espcially this year with the likes of Frankel, Nathethal and Treasure Beach on the flat. Could he produce a top class 2 mile hurdler capable of winning the champion hurdle. We have seem Sadlers Wells and Montjeus winning the champion hurdle with Istabraq and Hurricane Fly respectively what about Galileo? There is no reason why Galileo cannot produce a top quality 2 mile hurdler. Celestal Halo nearly became champion hurdler a few years ago. I would personally see Galileo sire the next Istabraq. He has sired winners of bumpers before and we are seeing a few more Galileos switch codes so hopefully fingers crossed what might happen in the next few years.

    #373895
    grey dolphingrey dolphin
    Participant
    • Total Posts 653

    Given that Galileo sires about 900 foals a year it seems a fair possibility :P

    #373898
    TuffersTuffers
    Member
    • Total Posts 1402

    I should have thought he would make a cracking NH sire. Didn’t he win the Royal and Sun Alliance Novices Hurdle? :wink:

    #373900
    HurdygurdymanHurdygurdyman
    Member
    • Total Posts 1560

    As you say anything is possible but it’s still highly unlikely.

    Nowadays you need more speed than ever to win a Champion Hurdle.

    Hurricane Fly broke the Montjeu mould but how many as good as him would ever see a hurdle?

    99% of them would never be gelded if they had his sort of class.

    Even if a good one comes along the odds against him being the very best hurdler in the country are extremely remote.

    I think replying no chance is a safe bet.

    #373962
    TuffersTuffers
    Member
    • Total Posts 1402

    As you say anything is possible but it’s still highly unlikely.

    Nowadays you need more speed than ever to win a Champion Hurdle.

    Hurricane Fly broke the Montjeu mould but how many as good as him would ever see a hurdle?

    99% of them would never be gelded if they had his sort of class.

    Even if a good one comes along the odds against him being the very best hurdler in the country are extremely remote.

    I think replying no chance is a safe bet.

    Celestial Halo is by Galileo.

    #373971
    TuffersTuffers
    Member
    • Total Posts 1402

    and this would be a very interesting recruit if sent over hurdles

    http://docs.tattersalls.com/cat/autumnhit/2011/611.pdf

    #373988
    Venusian
    Participant
    • Total Posts 1665

    I see no reason at all why Galileo couldn’t sire the winner of the Champion Hurdle, the odds can’t be much worse than evens.

    The idea that "you need more speed than ever" is incorrect. The truer pace that jump races are run at these days (thank you Mr Pipe) may put a very slightly greater emphasis on stamina, though it’s probably marginal at best.

    If you look through past winners of the race ( http://www.pedigreequery.com/index.php? … ew&id=4425 ), there appears to be no discernible pattern or trend regarding the stamina attributes of winners’ sires. They’re a real mixed bag.

    The high point of sprinters as sires of Champion Hurdlers came in the 1960s and 1970s when speedsters like Tangle, Hard Sauce, Goldhill, Falcon and Milesian all had winners of the race.

    The last specialist sprinter to sire a winner was Archway, sire of Hardy Eustace who was more of a staying type anyway.

    #374008
    HurdygurdymanHurdygurdyman
    Member
    • Total Posts 1560

    and this would be a very interesting recruit if sent over hurdles

    http://docs.tattersalls.com/cat/autumnhit/2011/611.pdf

    So would So You Think but it’s not going to happen is it?

    I am perfectly aware that Celestial Halo is by Galileo but find me another one that’s not only better than him but better than ever other hurdler in the UK and Ireland because that’s what you have to do to pull this one off. The there’s thing like the ground being right on the day, luck in running, getting injured the day before, falling etc etc etc etc

    Venusiain says the odds can’t be much worse than evens.

    Any bookie worth his salt would lay you 1000/1 + about him siring the winner within say 5 years.

    The odds are stacked a mile high against it happening

    #374012
    andyod
    Member
    • Total Posts 4012

    I believe that Coolmore have given strict orders that Galileo can do whatever he wants to do.

Viewing 9 posts - 1 through 9 (of 9 total)
  • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.