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Put it this way, we will find out on Saturday whether Telecaster is A) a proper group 1 horse or B) is an average horse that won a poor Dante and then got found wanting at the highest level. Personally I suspect it’s B). However I’ve been convinced he’s worth a saver at those odds 16/1 just in case.
Enable – worth taking on 1st time out on fast ground over 10 furlongs at the prices.
Magical – had a very hard race at Ascot and may not have recovered.
Regal Reality – from group 3 to a group 1. have my doubts.
Mustashry – didn’t run well last time and has it to prove over the distance.
Zabeel Prince – not on this ground.
Danceteria – wont win
Hunting Lion – wont winThat leaves Telecaster.
Put it this way, we will find out on Saturday whether Telecaster is A) a proper group 1 horse or B) is an average horse that won a poor Dante and then got found wanting at the highest level. Personally I suspect it’s B). However I’ve been convinced he’s worth a saver at those odds 16/1 just in case.
On his 4th start of his career against very experienced rivals? I don’t think D-Day is near.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!Well she’s been declared lads. That’s half the battle. Got the price, got the entry, got the declaration. But still has got to win.
I’ll be going crazy near the finish line (my first ever experience of Sandown for what it’s worth – any suggestions to do/avoid?) if she can win. And I think she will.
Frenchy – I’d be stunned if she touches 7/4. That would be huge even on reappearance for a 7 time Group 1 winner in a weak looking race (Magical asides). I reckon the biggest she will touch is 5/4. She’ll spend most of the morning at Evens and 11/10 though and win at around that price.
Come on Enable!!
On his 4th start of his career against very experienced rivals? I don’t think D-Day is near
Well it’s 5th start for one, but if he runs average/poorly again then it would not be unreasonable to put a line through the Dante form as a top race, meaning he’s run average 5 times. Not D Day maybe but then you could say that for all 3 year old horses that have run averagely/poorly 5 times. I certainly would not be backing him in a group 1 again if that happened. But let’s see what he does, will be interesting to see how he gets on.
Frenchy – I’d be stunned if she touches 7/4
Yeah bit fanciful maybe! I will need to go in at some point though, kicking myself for hovering over the button at 15/8 last week and not pressing!
Well it’s 5th start for one, but if he runs average/poorly again then it would not be unreasonable to put a line through the Dante form as a top race, meaning he’s run average 5 times. Not D Day maybe but then you could say that for all 3 year old horses that have run averagely/poorly 5 times. I certainly would not be backing him in a group 1 again if that happened. But let’s see what he does, will be interesting to see how he gets on.
Correct Frenchy, my bad wasn’t in front of the computer, but for me regardless the point still stands.
IMO, you cannot put a line through a Dante regardless. TDH regardless of what you think of him has still been running to a very high level, and Telecaster was able to perform very well on his third start. Most 3yos have had a 2yo season behind them, Telecaster hasn’t so he’s come a long way in a short time to be ruling him out over one bad run. In saying that, horses can quickly go from looking unexposed and to exposed, so hopefully he doesn’t completely bomb out tomorrow and shows something to work on.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!Telecaster must be flying at home for them to even consider coming here
I’d have thought after bombing out of the derby they wouldve considered giving him a slightly easier task to build into the rest of the season
The race is a premium Group 1 which wins connections both a heap of £ in prize money and Telecaster making himself an instant stallion. It’s a no lose situation in reality, especially with the opposition having so many question marks.
If they went lower and won, what do they go into? KG looks a savage race, i’d much rather try my hand in this and drop down if needs be NTO.
TDH regardless of what you think of him has still been running to a very high level,
No he hasn’t though Jack, he’s run RRPs 115,113,116, that’s group 2/3 form and I’m a big Too Darn Hot fan. Damn I even want to back him for the Sussex! He ran over 10f when out injured before that. They’re trying him over 7f so clearly he was running way too far in the Dante as well.
I’m not saying after one bad run either I’m saying if he runs badly on Saturday that’s 2 bad runs and 1 rubbish Dante win. Don’t see what the argument is on the Dante. If Telecaster runs badly again the Dante form is rubbish. If Telecaster runs well you could then argue there is still something in the Dante form, although I still think it’s poor.
I did think that also FF. I was surprised to see him run. Could be a pointer that. I thought he was having a break
He’s been 2nd + 3rd in two 3yo only G1s, that’s a pretty high level of 3yo form. The 3yos racing against 4yos is when we will find out how strong the overall form is. Fair to suspect it won’t be the greatest bar one or two but that’s shouldn’t be used as a stick to beat Telecaster with on what was his 3rd start of his life in a Dante IMO.
I suppose it depends what you define a bad run as though Frenchy in regards to tomorrow. All i am saying is it is far too early to write a horse off when he has only started racing in what late March?
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!RRP 110 something like that then I think that would be 5 average runs and everything to prove he’s group 1 class
Fact Too Darn Hot hasn’t won since the Dante means little to Telecaster’s form. We pretty much know TDH wasn’t at his 2yo best at York and Telecster is not rated as beating a top form Too Darn Hot anyway. They might have allowed Telecaster (and Turgenev) a bit too much rope and it wasn’t a great Dante behind the front two. Too soon to be judging Surfman too harshly though. Well beaten in the French Derby, but that wasn’t his running and hasn’t run since Chantilly/June 2nd. Turgenev ran well at Royal Ascot but the Dante can’t be judged on that either. Turgenev hadn’t been in the same form at York. However, the overall time of the race was still pretty good and Telecaster didn’t just beat the rest, he had 5 lengths back to the third. Plenty of room to fit some better horses between him and Surfman.
Telecaster is not yet a Group 1 horse; but has good Group 2 form with scope to improve further. Being a big sort who has still to fill his considerable frame and… fact he’s had only 4 races and a career only a few months old all means there’s a probability of improvement. That said, if all the other Eclipse runners run to form, Telecaster will do well to progress enough to take third… But (and this time it’s an important “but”) there are reasons why both Enable and Magical may not run to their bests.
If Telecaster is beaten 4 lengths by a top form Enable or Magical, it’ll still represent some progression… And with liklihood of more to come – will mean there’d still be reason to view Telecaster as a prospective future Group 1 winner.
Value Is EverythingIMO point and press for ENABLE !!
Just for an interest in the race I have backed Mushtashry at 16/1 and Hunting Horn at 100/1 each way !
Something ha
s to finish thirdWill hunting horn be sacrificed to make it a stiff test since magical is better over 12f and they wont want it turn into a sprint
If it does become a speed test a miler like mustashry could easily be the one to put it up to the big 2
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