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Inspired by the ‘Favourite Horse’ thread (Dancing Brave & Dessie btw) I’ve been looking up a few old favourites and was amazed to see Lyphento standing at stud – as I can clearly remember him winning a chase.
Which in fact turns out to be true – he won a Novices’ Chase at the age of six.
Is this common or is he a one off?
Racing Record
At 2yrs
Won Willow Stakes, Lingfield (beating Exceller’s Special and Thornfield)At 3yrs
Won Rascal Vodafone Blue Riband Trial Stakes, Epsom (beating Star North and Altountash)
Third in Mecca Bookmakers Handicap, Ascot (to Wood Chisel)At 4yrs
Won Newant Handicap Hurdle, Cheltenham (beating Celtic Bob and Polar Bear)
Won Walton Hurdle, Kempton (beating Wood Chisel and Native Smile)
Second in Flavel-Leisure Hurdle (to Kribensis)
Second in Ripley Hurdle, Sandown (to Surf Board)
Third in Birchwood Hurdle, Sandown (to Russian Affair)At 5yrs
Won Balvenie Malt Whisky Handicap Hurdle, Sandown (beating Esha Ness and Leavenworth)
Won Bic Lady Shaver Handicap Hurdle, Kempton (beating Imperial Brush and Brave Defender)At 6yrs
Won Marcol Novices Chase, Sandown (beating Does It Matter and Escribana)
Third in Northern Trust Opal Novices Chase, Lingfield Park (to Black Humour)Safari Journey ran in the Grand Annual at Cheltenham as an entire (as did an old favourite of mine, Toirdealbhach, who was twice placed in the event) while there have been plenty of minor stallions who have had careers over jumps, although not that many to have jumped a fence (at least in this country – France is another matter).
The entire Kadastrof won five over hurdles and six over fences, as well as finishing second in a Game Spirit when still a novice and starting favourite for Champleve’s Arkle – he has since carved out a fairly successful career as a jumps sire.
Battleship famously won the 1938 National as an entire and went on to have a near 20-year career at stud in America.
Glad someone else remembers Toirdhealbach – trained by Pat O’Connor near Derby for the Harpur-Crewe’s of Calke Abbey fame IIRC.
Did he train on the estate? I was escorted off the premises at gunpoint years ago when it was still privately owned….took the wrong path.
Good old Nickname. He was like an ATM a few years ago. The more you put on, the more you got back!
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Didn’t Sula Bula win over fences before a stud career? Or am I amagining things?
Value Is EverythingAt a slightly lower level than some of those mentioned, perhaps, the duo of Green Finger and Matt The Thrasher both won chases in Britain as entires during 2006-7.
I was rather hoping either or both might have kept their wedding veg through to the end of their careers, whereafter they could have stood as inexpensive pointing stallions; and in both cases their gelding seemed a bit unnecessary and injudicious from a performance point of view at least, as neither had fallen out of form or lost interest in the game prior to their operations.
Indeed, I wonder whether Matt The Thrasher has never quiet got over (or forigven humans for!) his gelding, as since then he has developed into one of the foulest, most unwilling coves in pointing and could be inching ever closer to censure after planting himself again at Ston Easton 10 days ago.
Not saying it’s the only cause of his souring, but it may well be a constituent.
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Nickname’s standing in France now, is he?
At Haras De Victot, apparently.
Looking forward to when he’s thrown a few – loved Nickname.
Well I never I had just assumed it never happened, thanks for the information, interesting stuff.
Does anyone think an Entire may hold a competitive advantage over a Gelding, assuming both had the same natural ability before the dangley bits on one had been removed?
Do think some hurdlers are gelded unnecessarily hastily these days. Seem to be few jumpers who go on to stud and that’s a shame.
Would love to see another Alderbrook, Monksfield, Nomadic Way, Ra Nova, Broadsword or Baron Blakeney.
Moehat, not sure exactly where Pat O’Connor trained. But it was the glory days of eacing in that part of the world what with Tom Bill sending out two Cheltenham winners from near Ashby.
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