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June 24, 2013 at 14:34 #443881
Hi Ivanjica. To your comment about the Wildenstein epaulets showing up on French tracks. The only things I can think of is the Wildensteins are running two stables in two different names OR the Ecurie Wildenstein stable has folded????
1. Ecurie Wildenstein: Royal Blue, Light Blue Cap
2. Wildenstein Stables Limited: Royal Blue, Light Blue Epaulets and Cap.
Yes, and great to see the All Red silks coming back under Haras du Quesnay (the Head family). Certainly have fond memories of Ravinella.June 25, 2013 at 13:40 #443988I was hunting for Grand National winners (Rob Jones kindly sent me a number a year or so back) and realised we don’t have a list as with the other big races. So here’s my list going back to 1915. Sorry if it’s already posted:
1915 Ally Sloper
White, light blue sash and cap1916 Vermouth
Navy blue, white braces1917 Ballymacad
Cerise, purple sleeves1918 Poethlyn
Yellow, dark blue belt (sash) and cap1919 Poethlyn
Yellow, dark blue belt (sash) and cap1920 Troytown
Black, Eton blue collar and cuffs, quartered cap1921 Shaun Spadah
McAlpine tartan, gold cap1922 Music Hall
Mauve, white crescents and cap1923 Sergeant Murphy
Yellow and black stripes, white cap1924 Master Robert
White, tartan sash, green cap1925 Double Chance
Silver grey, copper sleeves and cap1926 Jack Horner
White, red spots and cap – only from photo1927 Sprig
Canary, scarlet and violet quartered cap1928 Tipperary Tim
Purple and yellow stripes, purple sleeves, yellow cap1929 Gregalach
Tangerine, black striped sleeves, white cap1930 Shaun Goilin
Bronze, white crossbelts and cap1931 Grakle
Orange, black collar, cuffs and cap1932 Forbra
French grey, dark blue sleeves, red cap1933 Kelsboro’ Jack
Light blue, canary sleeves, braid and cap1934 Golden Miller
Blue, yellow hoop on body and sleeves, yellow cap, blue hoop1935 Reynoldstown
Straw, pale blue sleeves and cap1936 Reynoldstown
Straw, pale blue sleeves and cap1937 Royal Mail
Black, light blue cuffs and cap1940 Bogskar
Dark blue, orange sash and cap1946 Lovely Cottage
Pearl grey, grass green hooped sleeves, grass green cap1947 Caughoo
Green and blue halved, white sleeves and cap1948 Sheila’s Cottage
Black and white halved, sleeves reversed, gold cap1949 Russian Hero
Black and white check, black sleeves, quartered cap1950 Freebooter
Blue and silver halved, blue sleeves, scarlet cap1951 Nickel Coin
Black and lilac halved, lilac cap1952 Teal
Navy blue, old gold spots, quartered cap1953 Early Mist
Blue and red halves (horizontal), yellow sleeves, red, yellow and blue quartered cap1954 Royal Tan
Blue and red halves (horizontal), yellow sleeves, red, yellow and blue quartered cap1955 Quare Times
Red, white and blue hoops, blue sleeves, red cap1956 ESB
Green, white hoop and armlets1957 Sundew
Flame, emerald green sleeves, flame cuffs1958 Mr What
Maroon, maroon and yellow hooped sleeves, yellow cap, maroon hoop1959 Oxo
Green, pink and white striped sleeves, pink cap1960 Merryman II
White, tartan sash, red cap1961 Nicolaus Silver
Light blue, pink hoop and armlets, quartered cap1962 Kilmore
Blue, white diamond and hoops on sleeves, amber cap1963 Ayala
Brown and blue halved, sleeves reversed, quartered cap1964 Team Spirit
Yellow, red, white and blue hooped sleeves, blue cap1965 Jay Trump
Light blue, yellow crossbelts, black cap1966 Anglo
Blue, white diamond and hooped cap, amber sleeves1967 Foinavon
Black, red and yellow braces, hooped cap1968 Red Alligator
Blue, green sleeves, striped cap1969 Highland Wedding
Blue, white sleeves, red cap1970 Gay Trip
White, red crossbelts and blue hoops on sleeves. White cap, red spots1971 Specify
Green, blue sleeves, white cap with green spots1972 Well To Do
Maroon, amber sleeves, hooped cap1973 Red Rum
Maroon, yellow diamond and cap1974 Red Rum
Maroon, yellow diamond and cap1975 L’Escargot
Light blue and brown hoops, white cap1976 Rag Trade
Brown and blue halved, sleeves reversed, quartered cap1977 Red Rum
Maroon, yellow diamond and cap1978 Lucius
Black, white braid and sleeves, black cap, white spots1979 Rubstic
Light blue, green cross of Lorraine, white cap1980 Ben Nevis
Dark green and white halved, striped sleeves, white cap1981 Aldaniti
White with blue sash, armlets and cap1982 Grittar
Mauve and white hoops, quartered cap1983 Corbiere
Light blue, orange chevrons1984 Hallo Dandy
Black, green spots on cap1985 Last Suspect
Yellow, black hoop and cap with gold tassle1986 West Tip
light blue, black sash, armlets and hoop on cap1987 Maori Venture
Black, red cap1988 Rhyme n Reason
Pink, purple stars. Purple cap, pink star1989 Little Polveir
Light blue, red sleeves, light blue cap, black stripe1990 Mr Frisk
Red and green quarters, yellow sleeves, red cap1991 Seagram
Light blue, white crossbelts, red cap1992 Party Politics
Pink, purple crossbelts, hoops on sleeves, purple cap1993 void race
1994 Miinnehoma
Red, yellow star and sleeves and cap with red star1995 Royal Athlete
Dark blue, white sleeves with dark blue seam. Red cap with dark blue spots1996 Rough Quest
Dark blue with green sash, red cap1997 Lord Gyllene
Green and white stripes, black and white striped sleeves, green and whote striped cap1998 Earth Summit
Black with yellow seams and sleeves, quartered cap1999 Bobbyjo
Red, yellow cross of Lorraine and sleeves, green and yellow striped cap2000 Papillon
Green with white (possibly sky blue) seams and star on cap2001 Red Marauder
Red, blue hoop, hoops on sleeves, hooped cap2002 Bindaree
Green white stars and star on cap2003 Monty’s Pass
Green, red stars, white sleeves and cap with red stars2004 Amberleigh house
Black, red and white striped sleeves and hooped cap2005 Hedgehunter
Green and yellow quarters, white sleeves, green cap2006 Numbersixvalverde
Green, black sleeves, white cap2007 Silver Birch
Black, light blue star, light blue sleeves with black stars, light blue cap2008 Comply or die
Blue, green sleeves. White cap with green spots2009 Mon Mome
Green with purple armlets2010 Don’t Push It
Green and gold hoops, white cap2011 Ballabriggs
Green and yellow quarters, white sleeves, white cap2012 Neptune Collonges
Yellow, red star, yellow sleeves, white armlets, yellow cap, red star2013 Auroras Encore
Royal blue, yellow diamond, checked sleeves, royal blue cap, yellow diamondJuly 2, 2013 at 21:17 #444686Laticsfan,
Thanks for posting the Grand National colours. I had seen snippets on this thread but never a comprehensive list.I have converted to SVG graphics (IE9, Firefox, Chrome etc) at:
July 8, 2013 at 12:35 #445115I am in the process of collating the Coronation Stakes list.
So far I have these gaps (any help gratfeully appreciated as always!):
1846 – Guaracha – G S FORD
1879 – Lelia – J H HOULDSWORTH = Raciana has the colours listed as "Green and Gold, Green Cap" – but without pictorial evidence this not sure if it means halved, hoops, quarters or what.
1891 – Cereza – W B CLOETE – similar to above – "Crimson, black and white sleeves, black cap" – does this mean stripes, hoops or halved??
1972 – Calve – LORD GRANARD – can only find colours registered to Lady Granard (black, red stars and cap)
1983 – Flame Of Tara – MISS P O’KELLY – I have "Light blue cap with Cerise Hoop" form the 1984 Craven Stakes Blaze Of Tara ran in. The colours are not clearly described – I am presuming it is a light blue jacket with a light blue cap and cerise hoop on the cap only.
July 8, 2013 at 19:27 #445145Hi , hope the following helps.
1846 Guaracha Ford – 1843 Oaks winner , Poison , was owned by George Ford , colours described as Blue – the following link backs that up.
http://www.donaldheald.com/prints/Poiso … ernr=13115
1879 Lelia – may be helpful , maybe not . 1836 1000 Guineas winner was Destiny owned by T Houldsworth Green & Gold stripes but with a gold/yellow cap ???
1891 Cereza Cloete had hooped sleeves as per Paradox ( 2000 Gns ) & Cherimoya ( Oaks ) Google Image Cherimoya Oaks and you should get the evidence straight away.
Never seen a mention of Lord Granard but will keep looking – likewise for Flame of Tara.
cheers
I.July 8, 2013 at 19:38 #445147Shouldn’t have been in such a rush to post.
Google tara miss p o’kelly cerise light blue
I know it’s convoluted but …… you don’t have to look far. Scroll down to find a heading – 7.40 Dundalk 28th November 2008 – what do you think ?
July 8, 2013 at 21:25 #445159J H HOULDSWORTH and W B CLOETE colours can both be seen in the Pall Mall Gazette of 1912
July 9, 2013 at 01:59 #445176FLAME OF TARA: CERISE, CERISE CAP with LIGHT BLUE HOOP
July 9, 2013 at 06:06 #445180Apologies …… Cerise, light blue cap, cerise hoop.
July 9, 2013 at 13:48 #445220Thanks guys, great work as always.
ENE, that Pall Mall pdf is brilliant – how did you unearth that??
From their depitcion of the Houldsworth colours it would seem some years later the jackey would be registered to E R More-O’Ferrall.Slewman, obviously that Craven Stakes racecard ommitted the cerise jacket. I did find on youtube today Sadlers Wells’ Phoenix Champion Stakes in which Flame Of Tara ran and although the pictures are hardly ideal, if does show the jacket to be Cerise. I guess the cap has changed over time as on the RP site the more recent versino seems to inddicate a green cap with cerise spots.
Isinglass, great investigative work on google as always! The Ford colours look identical to Godolphin’s – I wonder if the Dubai powerhouse are aware of the lineage?
July 11, 2013 at 08:03 #445364I know its being pedantic but the 1983 Coronation Stakes racecard officially describes Miss O’Kelly’s colours (Flame of Tara) as
CERISE jacket and sleeves, SKY BLUE cap with CERISE hoop, just in case anybody is that meticulous!July 11, 2013 at 08:24 #445366Ivanjica,
I found the Pall Mall Gazette at Greg Way’s brilliant bookshop in Newmarket. Sadly it seems that the 1912 edition was the only one published.July 11, 2013 at 12:11 #445389LORD GRANARD did indeed have the same colours as Lady Granard – BLACK, RED stars and cap. Lady Granard (or Beatrice Forbes) was the daughter of Ogden Mills and had a huge racehorse string for many years until her death in January 1992, when her son Arthur (who by now was Lord Granard as his father had died) inherited the horses. They included Calve and a few average ones trained by John Dunlop in the 80s (Bold Rex?). I have a racecard from Haydock in 1985 that confirms the colours
July 11, 2013 at 15:44 #445399Thanks again everyone.
I have discovered some more gaps in the Coronation Stakes which are:
1934 – Foxcraft – M FIELD
1957 – Toro – W R JOHNSTONE
1960 – Barbaresque – W GUEST
1962 – Display – MRS B GRANARD (I wonder is this Lady Grandard prior to becoming titled?)
Once I have these I think I will have nailed it – will post the full list up here presently.
July 11, 2013 at 19:15 #445415Hi ,
1934 Foxcroft Marshall Field Straw Straw & Cherry hooped cap.
In the 1959 Ruffs Guide it has a Lady Granard listed with usual Black Red Stars Red cap
Interestingly , her steeplechase colours were Black Silver braid Cerise cap.
Would assume the B Granard in 1962 is a different lady – wouldn’t she have had a completely different name before becoming Lady Granard ? keep digging.
Also a Lady Granard had the winner of the 1937 French Oaks carrying Black Garnet Cap which ties in with the Ogden Phipps colours in American racing.
Incestuous world isn’t it ?
Agree the Pall Mall download is very good. Have a couple more to post soon that I’ve found for the Irish classics from way back and also will be calling in a favour for some Grand National runners – will be easy for you folks.
cheers
I.July 11, 2013 at 23:51 #445441I would think that 1960 – Barbaresque – W GUEST is William Guest or W.F.C. Guest, brother to Raymond Guest of Sir Ivor fame.
William Guest also raced Gyr in Nijinsky’s Derby.
His colours were YELLOW, CHOCOLATE SLEEVES and CAP.July 12, 2013 at 16:02 #445488Thanks Slew and IDB – the W Guest one is plausible.
So I have just the two left to get –
1957 – Toro – W R JOHNSTONE & 1962 – Display – MRS B GRANARD
Also, staying on the Royal Ascot theme, I am still having no luck in tracking down the following St James’s Palace Stakes ones:
1928: Royal Minstrel G P Gough
1927: Kincardine A Barclay
1887: Florentine Lord Calthorpe
1859: Cynricus J Wyndham -
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