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Twinlight has two ways of running and you never know which horse is going to turn up. On his day he looks brilliant but then there are other day where he puts in really putrid runs. At his best he wouldn’t put it up to Sprinter Sacre but he’d give Dodging Bullets a go at any rate.
I’ve backed Twinlight as the main bet. Some a win bet with "all in", some "betting without", and a place (first or second). Beginning to regret it now. Have taken a bit of the Evens Sprinter Sacre as a part saver but think should’ve made him the main bet. Noises coming out of Seven Barrows are far better than I’d expected. SS has a load in hand on his best so doesn’t need to run anywhere near his best. In my opinion is a "probable" winner, so Evens is worth the "risk".
This is a race where I’ll be shouting for Sprinter Sacre no matter what money I’ll win or lose. He’s the best National Hunt horse I have ever seen in 30+ years of watching racing. Come on Sprinter!
Value Is EverythingDodging Bullets was 11/4 when I first looked and I would suggest gobbling the 2/1 available with Ladbrokes, as he is 6/4 in a few places now.
Dodging Bullets 2/1 could be Christmas in January.
Well it would have been if he hadn’t gone out to 7/2
Nicky Henderson is trying to put a brave face on it but I suspect he’s a bit disappointed.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
It’s difficult not to be very disappointed.
He will probably still go to Cheltenham with a favourite’s chance but he’s not the same horse.
Seems sad to think of him being truly exceptional for just the one season. Especially as Frankel managed to be exceptional for two…
If there is competition in the closing stages
you just wonder how hard they will push Sprinter Sacre
. It’s a fascinating race and one of the most anticipated contests of the season.
Well, do Sprinter backers feel they got 100% from the saddle today?
I thought he got a very tender ride with eyes on the future.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
If there is competition in the closing stages
you just wonder how hard they will push Sprinter Sacre
. It’s a fascinating race and one of the most anticipated contests of the season.
Well, do Sprinter backers feel they got 100% from the saddle today?
I thought he got a very tender ride with eyes on the future.
Totally agree with this and he may well have been the best horse on the day.
There was still that lack of zing which would have put the race to bed at three but I think backers would every right to feel aggrieved.
I think even if Geraghty had cut him in half it is no certainty he would have won.
As countless people said before the race, he was never going to be ridden for his life today.
Even if he had got up under an all-out drive he is clearly not the horse he was.
Contender for the Champion Chase, but favourite’s chance?
I am not so sure.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Looking at Nicky Hendersons face on CH4 at the end of the race I thought he looked very disappointed, regardless of what he and the jockey said afterwards.
I just said that on the other thread, steve. Reminded me a bit of the look on his face when Punjabi ‘the wrong horse’ won the Champion Hurdle.
Decent run, definitely still a contender in March, but well-beaten on the day. Sadly, no longer the horse he was
I think even if Geraghty had cut him in half it is no certainty he would have won.
As countless people said before the race, he was never going to be ridden for his life today.
Even if he had got up under an all-out drive he is clearly not the horse he was.
Contender for the Champion Chase, but favourite’s chance?
I am not so sure.
Maybe he wouldn’t have won with a more aggressive ride but the speculation beforehand was whether they would give him an easy time or not. The rules state that you should ride to achieve the best possible position and the way Sprinter Sacre was ridden today did not allow us to tell whether 2nd was definitely the best he could have obtained today.
Sprinter Sacre is available at 7/2 now in a Champion Chase where bookies seem to be guessing as wildly as anybody as to who should be favourite.
Sprinter is 9/4 Fav on one list while Sire De Grugy is 5/2 Fav on another. You can get 7/2 and 5/1 respectively on the same horses with other firms.
Dodging Bullets must be a serious contender after today with less questions to answer than most.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
If there is competition in the closing stages
you just wonder how hard they will push Sprinter Sacre
. It’s a fascinating race and one of the most anticipated contests of the season.
Well, do Sprinter backers feel they got 100% from the saddle today?
I thought he got a very tender ride with eyes on the future.
SS got 100% of what he was ever going to be given. After a long time off course with a serious heart problem – you can not expect the jockey to go for absolutely everything imo.
He’s still a contender but it was disappointing. Probably won’t be the brillint black brute again. Travelled and jumped well enough though not like he can. Going well on the turn for home but (even considering not knocked about) didn’t find much when shaken up. That might be because he needed it. However, those on course seem to think he was fit (which goes with stable reports beforehand). Post race interviews mean nothing in these situations, connections are always going to be optimistic and faces don’t match their words. Might come on a bit for the run, but imo probably won’t be a lot. Wouldn’t be surprised if the horse is reluctant to let himself down under any sort of pressure after the heart problem.
Value Is EverythingIt’s difficult not to be very disappointed.
He will probably still go to Cheltenham with a favourite’s chance but he’s not the same horse.
Seems sad to think of him being truly exceptional for just the one season. Especially as Frankel managed to be exceptional for two…
Do you remember the Frankel health scare BH? Think it was at the start of his four year old season. Or Kauto Star’s injury after a fall and re-mount at Exeter and injury? The difference between a temporary blip of an injury and a career limiting injury is minute.
Remember Arkle? Remember his almost as good (one season) stable companion Flyingbolt?
Value Is EverythingSS got 100% of what he was ever going to be given. After a long time off course with a serious heart problem – you can not expect the jockey to go for absolutely everything imo.
He’s still a contender but it was disappointing. Probably won’t be the brillint black brute again. Travelled and jumped well enough though not like he can. Going well on the turn for home but (even considering not knocked about) didn’t find much when shaken up. That might be because he needed it. However, those on course seem to think he was fit (which goes with stable reports beforehand). Post race interviews mean nothing in these situations, connections are always going to be optimistic and faces don’t match their words. Might come on a bit for the run, but imo probably won’t be a lot. Wouldn’t be surprised if the horse is reluctant to let himself down under any sort of pressure after the heart problem.
That was the gist of what I said before the race when I pondered how much they would push him if he couldn’t overcome them easily. The letter of the law states that you should do all you can to win and I am not suggesting there was any jiggery pokery going on. My concern was whether they will ever be able to give him the full monty from the saddle after his problems and that’s why he was a no bet for me, even at 2/1.
Given today’s effort I couldn’t back him for Cheltenham, even at 7/2. Will he come on much? Will he come on at all? Will he bounce?
Today’s winner and Sire De Grugy are the two who should be the 1-2 in the betting now for me. I’ve backed the latter at 5/1 before today and am a little surprised to see that still available given today’s result. Should he win the Game Spirit I would expect him to be warm favourite and 5/1 will look like Linford’s Lunchbox after ten Viagra sandwiches i.e. Biiiiiggg
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
That was the gist of what I said before the race when I pondered how much they would push him if he couldn’t overcome them easily. The letter of the law states that you should do all you can to win and I am not suggesting there was any jiggery pokery going on. My concern was whether they will ever be able to give him the full monty from the saddle after his problems and that’s why he was a no bet for me, even at 2/1.
Given today’s effort I couldn’t back him for Cheltenham, even at 7/2. Will he come on much? Will he come on at all? Will he bounce?
Today’s winner and Sire De Grugy are the two who should be the 1-2 in the betting now for me. I’ve backed the latter at 5/1 before today and am a little surprised to see that still available given today’s result. Should he win the Game Spirit I would expect him to be warm favourite and 5/1 will look like Linford’s Lunchbox after ten Viagra sandwiches i.e. Biiiiiggg
Although it was not as bad an injury as Sprinter Sacre, for me there must be a big doubt Sire De Grugy will be quite as good as he once was too. For sure if SDG runs to form in the Game Spirit he’ll shorten up for Cheltenham. If running poorly or abscent at Newbury – might not run at all in March. So the price represents that chance.
Think with all this talk of Sprinter there’s a danger of underestimating Dodging Bullets performance. Have a look at the time compared to any other at Ascot today!
I once backed DB for the Champion Hurdle, then went all against him (found little) which paid for a long time. But the tongue strap has transformed him in his last couple of starts. Twinlight beaten a long way. He’s in form this season, almost as good as SDG and is still improving. 6/1 Boyle or 5/1 with many others looks a cracking bet now.Value Is EverythingIf there is competition in the closing stages
you just wonder how hard they will push Sprinter Sacre
. It’s a fascinating race and one of the most anticipated contests of the season.
Well, do Sprinter backers feel they got 100% from the saddle today?
I thought he got a very tender ride with eyes on the future.
That was how I saw it too, and I wasn’t disappointed at all – thought Barry looked happy enough.
SS travelled well under fairly hefty restraint. Barry still hadn’t asked a question turning in and then he just appeared to tire. If he’s more than 5-2 at Cheltenham I’ll be on but you couldn’t have a bet till NRNB.
Dodging Bullets looks to have improved but I’ll be surprised if SS doesn’t turn it around in March.
I once backed DB for the Champion Hurdle, then went all against him (found little) which paid for a long time. But the tongue strap has transformed him in his last couple of starts. Twinlight beaten a long way. He’s in form this season, almost as good as SDG and is still improving. 6/1 Boyle or 5/1 with many others looks a cracking bet now.
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