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Childes or Lineker? – MOTD First Choice

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  • #5297
    zilzal
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    Give me the Brommie any Sunday or Saturday night instead of Linekar, the scriptwriter and his Chums….and try Lineker out in that 7pm "Wogan" slot, I say!

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    Avatar photoAndrew Hughes
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    I like Lineker, though he let the side down during the last World Cup when failing to reign in the boorish, one-dimensional little Englanders Shearer and Wright. But Adrian Chiles is by far the better presenter, maybe not quite as polished, but more substantial.

    And just a small correction. He isn’t a Brummie, he was born in Hagley, which as far as I am aware is entirely in Worcestershire, closer to Stourbridge or Kidderminster than Birmingham. He supports a Black Country team and his accent is more Black Country then Brummie, though is only mild.

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    SwallowCottage
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    I also like Lineker as a presenter but I think that his MOTD shows have become too cushy and friendly with no real serious debate or arguements. I am disappointed in Shearer who acts like he has been trained what to say and how to behave and he does not come across naturally. I sometimes think that he is reading a script.

    I have watched Chiles more on Working Lunch than I have on his version of MOTD but from what I have seen he comes across as a more genuine football supporter who has some passion for the game and is not afraid to raise some awkward questions.

    Chiles for me also.

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    insomniac
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    Like ’em both – so don’t feel able to vote.

    #118574
    Avatar photoPerpetual
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    Chiles as well for me. Sees it & calls it as a supporter and not ex-player

    #118603
    crizzy
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    is Chiles the same bloke who is on the 7 oclock show on bbc 1?

    #118621
    zilzal
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    Yes, the wooden version appears there. It would have helped matters if there was at least some chemistry between the presenters.

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    MikkyMo73
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    I like Lineker a lot, but have nothing against Childs.

    I just think that on MOTD, it’s the pundits that need a shake up. Ian Wright apart, they are all boring as hell.

    Alan Hansen, god how mundane has he become, while people like Dixon, Shearer, Lawrenson etc are just so dull – they never showed any passion on the field and they are showing no passion now.

    A perfect mix of pundits would be someone knowledgable, someone passionate, someone funny. Anybody want to have a stab at who they would go for?

    Someone funny would have to be Kammy for me. I know he is on Sky, but if I were the BBC I would bust the bank to get him – he is pure box office. Failing that, Jimmy Bullard is an extremely funny guy and is hugely entertaining. I would snap him up now even though he is still playing.

    Wrighty has a lot of passion, but someone like Roy Keane or Vinnie Jones would be great, even a Neil Warnock :lol:

    As for knowledgeable – are there any clever footballers :lol: . I can’t think of any lol.

    Mike

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    Don’t mind either – but Ian wright is out of his depth. Far too biased to give an objective analysis – particularly when England are playing

    Can’t help but recall his boorish and childish reaction to Northern Ireland’s fine win against England in Belfast not so long ago. If the BBC had any balls they would have booted him out there and then.

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    Don’t mind either – but Ian wright is out of his depth. Far too biased to give an objective analysis – particularly when England are playing

    Can’t help but recall his boorish and childish reaction to Northern Ireland’s fine win against England in Belfast not so long ago. If the BBC had any balls they would have booted him out there and then.

    Isn’t that refreshing though Himself. I know exactly where you are coming from but at least he speaks honestly and from the heart. He is gutted when England get beat, he is gutted when Wright-Phillips doesn’t get a game, and he shows it.

    I dare say the likes of Shearer and Dixon are gutted when England get beat, or when there favourite players don’t play, but they don’t have the balls to express their real feelings, instead they would rather sit on the fence and give a ‘cliched’ answer.

    Wrighty is class, whereas Shearer would say, "I hope we beat the Germany today", Ian Wright would say, "Let’s stuff these Germans out of sight and gave them some payback" – and believe me, every England fan in the country is thinking the same as Wrighty don’t you think.

    Mike

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    Isn’t that refreshing though Himself. I know exactly where you are coming from but at least he speaks honestly and from the heart. He is gutted when England get beat, he is gutted when Wright-Phillips doesn’t get a game, and he shows it.

    I dare say the likes of Shearer and Dixon are gutted when England get beat, or when there favourite players don’t play, but they don’t have the balls to express their real feelings, instead they would rather sit on the fence and give a ‘cliched’ answer.

    Wrighty is class, whereas Shearer would say, "I hope we beat the Germany today", Ian Wright would say, "Let’s stuff these Germans out of sight and gave them some payback" – and believe me, every England fan in the country is thinking the same as Wrighty don’t you think.

    Mike

    Yes, honesty is always refreshing. But, honesty and objectivity are not always the best of bedfellows. I recall a debate on tv many years ago, where the panel members all agreed that the role of a sports commentator; indeed any commentator (especially working for the BBC ) is to remain unbiased throughout, regardless of leanings.

    Of course football fans are biased. The very fact that one supports a particular team over another suggests that there is an in built pre-requisite for being so.

    I support Celtic and …

    and Scotland ! Therefore, it would fair to assume that whether England or any other country’s football team win, lose or draw is inconsequential to me – if I may be allowed to put it so diplomatically.. lol

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    MikkyMo73
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    Lol Himself.

    Yes I know exactly where you are coming from. Remaining un-biased is definitely the way to when commentating, but I don’t mind pundits expressing their feelings in a biased way lol.

    Regardless of whether they are biased or not, I still think most of them need to lighten up at the BBC. I would much rather see some pundits with a sense of humour on there. Hansen has bored me for more than 10 yeras now and it would be nice to see some fresh faces. Sky introduce new pundits almost weekly, I just wish BBC would do the same.

    Mike

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    As for knowledgeable – are there any clever footballers :lol: . I can’t think of any lol.

    Clever academic or clever articulate? Le Saux would rate as one of the former, presumably, along with Dowie; whereas in the latter bracket, The Beast of Cannock Chase Mr Collymore is actually rather more lucid and gifted a pundit than perhaps some would give him credit for.

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    #119056
    Avatar photoAndrew Hughes
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    The Beast of Cannock Chase

    :lol:

    Presumably as a pundit, he is dogged in pursuit of the truth

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