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  • #339935
    Avatar photovikingflagship
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    what about midnight chase, i really like this horse

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    #339938
    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    Been backing him for this since the autumn Viking, and got some very big prices, so I hope you’re right. Lots to like about his performances at Cheltenham in the last year, some really gutsy runs. Long thought he was a potential Gold Cup horse.

    Hoping that he didn’t peak for his last appearance, but regardless, he has got a decent outside chance. I’m hoping he lines up on the day, so at the very least I can lay some off, and maybe a few more quid in running if he’s still at the head of affairs on the second circuit.

    Certainly got a lot more on his plate here, and he’s got to improve significantly again, but i don’t think it’s completely beyond him. Hope he’s up to this standard, cos he’s going to be handicapped to the hilt outside of this grade for the forseeable.

    #339955
    Ilikemymoney
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    One thing about Midnight Chase – He certainly knows his way around Cheltenham – and knows how to win there!
    Would he go well fresh? The ground tends to end up fairly decent these days which should suit too.

    #340186
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    Mullins confirms

    Kempes

    targeted at the Gold Cup:

    "I’m delighted for the horse and owner but especially for David Casey who has been part of the team for a long time.

    "I was certainly surprised how he handled the testing ground. I was hoping that, with a clear round, he may have too much speed for the others and turned out to be the case.

    "We will go for the Gold Cup now. The better ground will really suit him."

    #340192
    fivelongdays
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    He’s 20s right now, and I see a JP gamble in the wings…e/w bet of the festival right now.

    BlueSky @pghenn.bsky.social

    So don't run, just like the others always do

    #340309
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    It didn’t look like a great race beforehand, but Kempes was very impressive, and I now rate hime a live conder for the big one. Finished strongly in soft ground, bound to be improving, a sound jumper, has a touch of class. If the commander doesn’t run his race, Kempes could take the title

    #340372
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    It didn’t look like a great race beforehand, but Kempes was very impressive, and I now rate hime a live conder for the big one. Finished strongly in soft ground, bound to be improving, a sound jumper, has a touch of class. If the commander doesn’t run his race, Kempes could take the title

    My feelings exactly, 130 on betfair just a couple of short weeks ago all of a sudden looking very very sweet. More convinced now than ever this race is wide open. Todays Hennessey has just reaffirmed what I was saying about the lexus, that Kempes was going as good as anything in the race at the time of his departure. Pure guess work i know (as somebody pointed out) but not a bad guess none-the-less. The way Kempes swallowed up the ground on the leaders, and on ground unsuitable was as impressive as anything I’ve seen this year. Good ground and the extra distance will only serve him better regardless of what the breeding suggests. Trends are only trends until they’re broken, then they’re only stats.
    Still going to have a few quid on Denman tho. No horse as ever captured my imagination like him. Cheltenham wouldnt be Cheltenham without a centimental wager now would it?

    #340379
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    Look, todays race was

    very

    weak. Whether he can do it against the market leaders is another matter. I think hes a Ryanair horse – at least this season. Championship pace over 2 furlongs further at Cheltenham just might find him out. You need to stay 3m5f to win a gold cup, is that within Kempes range? Maybe.

    I backed him for maximum stakes @ 66/1 NRNB in the King George Ante Post Market because I was not totally convinced of his stamina. I’m more confident now but still think he should go the Ryanair route because of his pace and that hes proven over 3m.

    This Gold Cup is getting ridiculous – I would have to laugh if IC, KS and the tank finished in the first 3 positions. I’d have lost a good bit of money but I’d

    have

    to laugh. Apparently, 11 horses can win it!?

    #340415
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    He won 3m1f at Punchestown last year, despite looking like the sort of horse who prefers left-handed tracks.

    It’s evident he can go well on all sorts of ground, although good/good-to-soft is probably his most favoured going – and that’s what we’re likely to see at Cheltenham.

    He has a fantastic turn of pace, and I can see him slamming his way into contention with three or four to go, having barely used up his running reserves.

    Neither McManus nor Mullins have won the Gold Cup. You’d certainly believe they’d love to. Kempes will be prepared for this, big time – you know, deep down, it’s been his target ever since he won at Punchestown. I suspect the whole ‘second-string’ talk his been a touch of the old smoke and mirrors.

    He’ll almost certainly be McCoy’s mount.

    If he wins, I will be a not-inconsiderable amount richer…and a ridiculous, annoying, amount smugger.

    Believe.

    FLD.

    BlueSky @pghenn.bsky.social

    So don't run, just like the others always do

    #340535
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    What about Weird Al for this? I notice he is back in training now after his larynx op and his odds were on a par with Diamond Harry’s for the Hennessy. So maybe worth a long odds punt.

    #340584
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    This looks a better renewal than last year so I don’t think there’s as much scope for the rags to limp into the frame.

    #340606
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    :D

    kempes has no chance

    IC, denman, kauto and harry will be trained to the minute, and are all at their best when fresh

    they’ll fill the first 4 places in whatever order with a clear round- fact

    i’ll give anyone 100/1 kempes to win if they want it 8)

    #340639
    Avatar photoGazs Way De Solzen
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    Sizing Europe not amongst the entries for the Gold Cup.

    #341443
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    Is Imperial Commander too short at 7/2? He beat Tidal Bay 1.25 lengths at level weights at Haydock, however Neptune Collonges beat Tidal Bay at level weights by the same margin at Cheltenham but he is trading at over 10 times the odds of Imperial Commander.

    Following on from Riverside Theatre’s success yesterday, Long Run has hardened in the market and is now as low as 5/1 with some bookies. If he jumps well and gets into a rhythm he wins.

    After the typical overreaction to Kauto Stars defeat at Kempton when he was available at 12/1 for the GC. He is now trading at around 7/1, who knows if we get a few bullish reports from Paul Nicholls stable he could be vying for favourite come the big day.

    Ww find out today that Denman had a breathing operation shortly after the Henessy, how come Paul Nicholls waits 3 months before telling?, I’m sure ante post punters on Denman would have liked to know about this asap.

    Meanwhile Diamond Harry is to be unleashed as fresh as paint, if he is in the same form as last time then he will obviously be travelling well in the race, he looks an excellent back to lay prospect.

    A few on here are raving about Kempes, he looked good but the form is way short of GC class.

    Midnight Chase, game that he is has no chance.

    Pandorama ain’t gonna get his ground.

    #341508
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    I am a bit puzzled by the Nicholls penchant for breathing ops. Denman has never seemed to have a problem and What a Friend doesn’t seem to have been helped much by his op. I don’t see it as a reason to be bullish on Denman.

    #341532
    duke
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    imperial command all the way cheltenham his course and he will be spot on and fresh for this can’t believe hes 7/2 still i think hes a 7/4 shot 2nd best bet of cheltenham with nap been knight pass.

    #341754
    Avatar photoGazs Way De Solzen
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    I am still very keen on Denman’s chances in this race.

    Off level weights, he will go very, very close i think.

    He looks in excellent condition at the moment too, and looks very healthy!

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